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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No. We dont vote on individual liberty in this country. If you want to restrict individual liberty, you need a better reason than "I don't like it."
    Alright, I want to run naked through Times Square. It's illegal. However, as a nudist, this infringes on my individual liberties. Right?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    States were never intended to violate personal freedom. You are the one wanting to restrict the individual, you need to justify it.
    I want to smear myself with green jello, run naked through times square singing I'm an Oscar Meyer Weener. Why is that illegal?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Alright, I want to run naked through Times Square. It's illegal. However, as a nudist, this infringes on my individual liberties. Right?
    Right. Restricting that behavior requires that the government have a reason. "Deuce doesn't like you" isn't a good enough reason.

    I'm glad we're on the same page now.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Alright, I want to run naked through Times Square. It's illegal. However, as a nudist, this infringes on my individual liberties. Right?
    Are other people allowed to run naked through Times Square?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. Restricting that behavior requires that the government have a reason. "Deuce doesn't like you" isn't a good enough reason.

    I'm glad we're on the same page now.
    But it is illegal. I would get arrested. How do you square that circle?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Are other people allowed to run naked through Times Square?

    Should they be?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    But it is illegal. I would get arrested. How do you square that circle?
    A substantial portion of the population believes that children are somehow harmed by viewing adult nude bodies, and I suspect this would be one of the primary reasons the government would give.

    Personally, I think that's nuts (rimshot), and that the public health hazard of your unsanitary ass crack is a more compelling reason to make you wear underpants.

    Now it's your turn. Justify a same-sex marriage ban.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Should they be?
    Hardly the point. Are they?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    The Roberts Court has shown a strong Libertarian streak when it comes to Social issues--though I'm surprised to see Alito join Roberts and Kennedy.
    Individual rights are taking precedent over state's rights.

    We saw the same thing with Citizens United, as interpreted by this court.
    Individual rights taking precedence over federal rights.

    Yet with voting rights and ACA, we saw a mixed bag between state's rights and federal rights.
    Leaning to the states but not pleasing either side--showing where the five GOP-appointed Justices are heavily conflicted .
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A substantial portion of the population believes that children are somehow harmed by viewing adult nude bodies, and I suspect this would be one of the primary reasons the government would give.

    Personally, I think that's nuts (rimshot), and that the public health hazard of your unsanitary ass crack is a more compelling reason to make you wear underpants.

    Now it's your turn. Justify a same-sex marriage ban.
    Same indecency argument you used. Cut and paste.

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