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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Aaaaaaannd...the Kooky Moore-on triples down.

    "Chief Justice Roy Moore said on "Fox News Sunday," that if the Supreme Court rules in favor of same-sex marriage, he wouldn't be "bound" by the ruling."

    Alabama Chief Justice: SCOTUS Can't Change God's Law On Marriage

    He also said when a word’s not in the Constitution [marriage] the Supreme Court can't rule on it - because they can't define words that aren't there.

    Yikes.
    Let's hope he recuses himself right out of a job....

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    ridiculous...


    Judge Roy is not adjoined in any litigation before the Supreme court or any federal court on this matter. His authority is cases before the Alabama Supreme Court.

    The state of Alabama went to the Supreme Court for the stay and it was denied.

    the State of Alabama is the applicant...not Judge Roy. He has no legal standing in this matter. None.
    Judge Roy is irrelevant, I don't know why you keep bringing him up. Perhaps because you can't address what's actually being talked about.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Incorrect. What you have conveniently failed to acknowledged is that the Federal court ruled Alabama's ban on SSM unconstitutional. You also choose not to acknowledge that the Supreme court did not accept Alabama's request to stay that ruling.

    You wish to argue that Judge Roy's ruling instead of acknowledging Federal judges ruling to one[ or all] probate judges in Alabama has no effect on the initial federal court ruling or the Supreme court's denial of stay are still valid and standing orders.

    It is ridiculous to continue to argue Judge Roy's reasoning when Probate Judges are abandoning Judge Roy's invalid ruling and complying with the federal court judges and the Supreme court judges.
    I could care less what Judge Roy says or doesn't say.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it isn't how the law works at all. The state of Alabama, the ban itself in the state of Alabama was being constitutionally challenged, not that single judge.
    You sue people, not laws.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who said anything about unborn people? I'm talking about in this country, what is considered violating someone's right to free speech?
    Not allowing someone to exercise their right to free speech is what is meant by "violating" - I don't know bow to put it in simpler terms than that. Now, where do you think people give other people the right to free speech?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Judge Roy is irrelevant, I don't know why you keep bringing him up. Perhaps because you can't address what's actually being talked about.
    Maybe because that's the OP, title and subject of this thread.


    deeeerp/

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    You sue people, not laws.
    The law was challenged in court. That is how constitutional challenges to laws work and it is understood that if a specific states law is struck down, it applies for everyone who deals with that law, not just the person named in the suit.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Not allowing someone to exercise their right to free speech is what is meant by "violating" - I don't know bow to put it in simpler terms than that. Now, where do you think people give other people the right to free speech?
    Again, what constitutes not allowing someone to speak freely? Imprisonment? Fines, maybe? For saying something someone else doesn't like?

    So wouldn't that mean that people in other countries who are imprisoned or fined for saying things against the government or that violates some law for what can or cannot be said violates those people's freedom of speech as we see it? Wouldn't that then mean that they do not have a right to freedom of speech because their country punishes them for saying certain things?
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The law was challenged in court. That is how constitutional challenges to laws work and it is understood that if a specific states law is struck down, it applies for everyone who deals with that law, not just the person named in the suit.
    There's your opinion on how things should work, and then there's how things really work in the real world. The judges clarifying order, and the events that took place last week, all illustrate how your opinion is wrong. You can continue to ignore the fact that Judge Davis was not required to do anything until he was personally enjoined by the court, but you're only doing yourself a disservice in clinging to beliefs that have been shown to be false.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The law was challenged in court. That is how constitutional challenges to laws work and it is understood that if a specific states law is struck down, it applies for everyone who deals with that law, not just the person named in the suit.
    From Judge Granade, in rejecting a request to hold Davis in contempt of court for failure to abide by her opinion:

    (Doc. 65, p. 3 quoting Brenner v. Scott, 2015 WL 44260 at *1 (N.D. Fla. Jan 1, 2015)). Probate Judge Don Davis is not a party in this case[1] and the Order of January 23, 2015, did not directly order Davis to do anything. Judge Davis's obligation to follow the Constitution does not arise from this court's Order. The Clarification Order noted that actions against Judge Davis or others who fail to follow the Constitution could be initiated by persons who are harmed by their failure to follow the law. However, no such action is before the Court at this time.

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