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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Same sex marriage is legal in Alabama now. Those who refuse to issue licenses will be dealt with.
    Big threats from an internet tough-guy.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Where is the right to free speech "granted"? Surely you can post the text of whatever law it was where we gave that right to one another.
    first amendment.

    Other countries don't have it.

    If there was some "inherent right" people would have free speech regardless of where they live.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You're wrong. This is like trying to say that cops are only bound by a decision made if they are named in the case if it is a case dealing with police procedures or policies. That is not how the law works. It is not reasonable to assume that she would rule opposite of this ruling if another judge came through her court who had refused to allow a same sex couple to wed, which means requiring every single judge to go through to each receive a ruling is a huge waste of time and money, and why there is no reason to not expect this ruling to be binding on all.
    That is how the law works, sorry if you don't like it. The judge herself has explained this in her clarifying order. I've been over this twice already in this thread.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    first amendment.

    Other countries don't have it.

    If there was some "inherent right" people would have free speech regardless of where they live.
    Not if it's being infringed upon.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    first amendment.

    Other countries don't have it.

    If there was some "inherent right" people would have free speech regardless of where they live.
    Where in the first amendment? Can you post the actual text that "grants" a right to free speech?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Sure, they always have. I don't know why they would want to, since marriage involves two people of the opposite sex.
    So, you have no problem with states granting marriage licenses to same sex couples.
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Think of it this way. How do we determine if someone's rights are being infringed upon? What has to be done to the person for that to happen, for that person to have "lost" their freedom of speech or religion?
    Let's not put the cart before the horse. A right first has to exist before it may be infringed. If we are not born with such a right, where is it given to us by the government?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Big threats from an internet tough-guy.
    It's not a threat, it's a fact, Jax.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Where in the first amendment? Can you post the actual text that "grants" a right to free speech?
    Ah, now you want to get into a wordsmithing battle! I can see it now. Because it says the govt won't abridge free speech, you'll argue that the right exists inherently.

    Sorry. Doesn't. And I'm not going down that dreary road, especially since it has no relationship to this thread.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    My bad, the order only forces a single judge to issue marriage licenses to four couples.
    This is a clam made by Judge Roy this morning and I believe his supporters are carrying this "reasoning" forward....that an order from a judge is not adjudication of the law.

    Judge Roy was pimping the reasoning that an order from the federal courts and even the Supreme court stay is not a "Law" and therefore does not trump current Alabama law ...UNTIL the entire case has been heard and ruled upon...and the state legislature "fixes" the law on the books with the NEW LAW...does this ban become null and void.

    Judge Roy and his judicial reasoning is full of ****.


    You are arguing that the Federal court judge's ruling only effected one probate judge...That is ridiculous. That is like saying the Supreme Courts' Row v Wade ruling only was meant for Norma Leah McCorvey's pregnancy.
    Last edited by 1750Texan; 02-15-15 at 12:32 PM.


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