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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
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    Boy I like this guys spunk, pardon the pun..

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    i'm sure you will like him after he's removed from his position AGAIN. Probably make him a "martyr" or some such. Posterity will only remember him as another george wallace though

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I think she's reached an age where she no longer gives a shot what others think of her, and no longer feels the need to follow unwritten rules. Case in point - today she admitted and even laughed about being drunk and passing out at Obama's State of the Union speech:

    Ginsburg: ‘I Wasn’t 100 Percent Sober’ For State Of The Union Address « CBS DC
    obama is just a politician reading from a teleprompter. I would have to get drunk to sit thru that too.

    And scalia whined in "Windsor" that gay marriage is inevitable. How is that any diff?

    Ginsburg did all she could to avoid taking these cases, until a split in the 6th forced it. I was highly critical of her for that. But now that it has been forced, the outcome is indeed inevitable, and THAT is what you object to, not that she speaks of it (as scalia also did)

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That simply translates out to, "I want my way and I don't care how I get it". Thankfully, we don't govern ourselves like that.
    I actually have a hard time deciding which i would enjoy more is all - the voters state by state overturning the very bans they created and your side desperately holds on a pedestal as a legitimizing force for bigotry, or the "activist judges" telling all the bigots to go **** themselves. Whichever enrages them more, that is what i want, so you tell me

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    To paraphrase Ataturk, rights are taken, not given.

    To be more clear, the reality is that people give up rights in exchange for the safety and convenience of being part of a community. An individual alone in the wild has all of his/her rights, and most of us could choose to leave society and regain that freedom. Once you join a community you have to give up some freedoms. To regain that freedom requires a struggle.
    Unless you're taken in chains from another continent and brought against your will, if lucky enough to even survive the trip. That doesn't strike me as a deliberate act of joining a community and giving up freedoms. It's a cherished tradition in alabama though

    With very few exceptions, today we're all born into a community, a large function of which is to *create* and preserve rights that facilitate cooperative living. Many of the rights taken for granted by hetero couples are not available, without being part of a community. You won't find them in the wild. You could go live out in the michigan wilderness, sure. Cross the border into canada, fall in love with a same sex partner, and try to return to your wilderness...he will be an illegal immigrant just the same

    We shouldn't have to go live in the sticks anyway

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Its very telling that the bigots in Alabama used the same argument a few decades ago. Telling but not surprising.

    Alabama used the states' right argument to ban marriages before
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    http://media.al.com/news_impact/othe...memorandum.pdf

    It ain't over.



    Boy I like this guys spunk, pardon the pun..

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    Clarification:
    The issue is settled. What ain't over is the temper tantrum.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Dude like 60% of the country now approves of SSM being legal *nationwide*. Stop hiding behind voter ballots from 2008 or pretending that alabama has more in common with NY than it does with russia. It may be a part of the US, but this is the land of "segregation forever", after all. Jumping to their defense, especially when they violate that constitution, does not impress anyone worth impressing
    Yeah people keep saying that, but yet other than the 4 states where it was voted on, that never seems to come to fruition.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
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    The issue is settled. What ain't over is the temper tantrum.
    I know it was long, but did you read it? Let me know I'll check back later, playing BF4 ATM.

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    much to the chagrin of the bigots
    Why do you feel the need to call me a bigot?
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Yeah people keep saying that, but yet other than the 4 states where it was voted on, that never seems to come to fruition.

    Tim-
    Because there is no push to do so. How stupid would it be to attack bigot voters and tyranny of the majority and then turn to the very source of the oppression as a solution? So we use the courts instead to correct this injustice. That certainly does not mean that ballots in 2016 would turn out anywhere near the same as in 2008.

    I'll admit though i do revel in seeing the hysterics over "activist judges", so if you want to indulge me by willfully ignoring the clear majority support of SSM, go right ahead

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