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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    While I'm impressed by your faith in an invisible man in the sky giving you rights, I kind of wonder that why, if this invisible man actually exists, he only got around to giving rights to people (errr.. well, white male landowners in a specific geographical region) in the late 18th century. Did he not get around to it in the ten thousand years of civillization before that?
    apparently gawd hated humanity until amurricans came along

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    While I'm impressed by your faith in an invisible man in the sky giving you rights, I kind of wonder that why, if this invisible man actually exists, he only got around to giving rights to people (errr.. well, white male landowners in a specific geographical region) in the late 18th century. Did he not get around to it in the ten thousand years of civillization before that?
    I didn't say anything about an "invisible man" and I haven't belittled anyone's religious beliefs, but you go ahead.

    And, actually, you can drop religion out of it if that is too much for you to handle. How about just saying, "All men are created equal"? Can you handle that one, and get the point? It kind of went way over your head initially, since you are referring to white male landowners.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    He's right. Rights only truly exist when they are recognized.
    I don't see it that way at all. Recognize my rights or not, I still have them, no one can truly take them away. They can oppress them, stifle them, and abridge them, but you can't ever take them. Because you didn't give them to me.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    How about the part where Cuomo said

    “Our rights do not come from God, your honor, and you know that. They come from man... That’s your faith, that’s my faith, but that’s not our country. Our laws come from collective agreement and compromise.”

    You claim Moore got a smack down, yet Cuomo makes this foolish admission. What an idiot. Really? My rights come from man? Gee, who should I be begging for my right to be free? Who gave that to me? Class A jerk.
    Our rights don't come from god. Our rights come from our constitution.

    We are not a theocracy, and we all don't believe in your god or Roy Moore's god.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    http://media.al.com/news_impact/othe...memorandum.pdf

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    4.Conclusion





    In fulfillment of my obligations as Administrative Head of the Unified Judicial System, I have herein offered you my considered guidance on how the recent orders from the United

    States District Court in Mobile affect your duties as an Alabama probate judge. Because, as demonstrated above, Alabama probate judges are not bound by Judge Granade's orders in the

    Searcy and Strawser cases, they would in my view be acting in violation of their oaths to uphold the Alabama Constitution if they issued marriage licenses prohibited under Alabama law
    Boy I like this guys spunk, pardon the pun..

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I don't see it that way at all. Recognize my rights or not, I still have them, no one can truly take them away. They can oppress them, stifle them, and abridge them, but you can't ever take them. Because you didn't give them to me.
    Which is what inalienable means, not what these liberal folks think it means. Inalienable means un-removable, cannot be separated, forever yours. It does not mean god given..

    But, what's a few misplaced words among otherwise intelligent people.

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    My bad, the order only forces a single judge to issue marriage licenses to four couples.
    You know, I just heard a disgraceful clip of none other than Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsberg. She was talking to the effect that it's going to happen, it's coming, blah, blah, blah.

    One problem. This case is before the court right now. It is unethical for her to speak about out it. Of, course she is obliged to recuse herself from the case. I'm guessing she does not have the integrity to do the right thing.

    As an aside, she forgot to mention that the court is bound to make their decision based on the Constitution. How sad.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Our rights don't come from god. Our rights come from our constitution.

    We are not a theocracy, and we all don't believe in your god or Roy Moore's god.
    The Constitution secures rights, it does not create them.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Our rights don't come from god. Our rights come from our constitution.

    We are not a theocracy, and we all don't believe in your god or Roy Moore's god.
    That's not true. We had those rights well before the Constitution. It just spelled it out, more so in the Declaration, prior to the Constitution.

    And you don't have to believe in any God at all to have them.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    He's right. Rights only truly exist when they are recognized.
    So in your view, most gay people in Alabama don't truly have a right to get married, because they're not being recognized?

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