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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    When a large contingent of people and sentient horses protest their civil rights being infringed, I think we will seriously have to consider that.

    I'm sure the people of Alabama would have appreciated their local government to decide about interracial marriage and having integrated schools. But that wouldnt be right, would it?
    Wouldn't it?

    If the federal government hadn't stepped in, would Alabama still be segregated today? I seriously doubt it. Just because progress sometimes occurs more slowly in some places compared to others, doesn't give Uncle Sam the right to force-feed that progress upon an unwilling public.

    You have to let things run their course, let people determine their own destiny.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not out of a sense of nostalgia. Out of a sense of mind your own damn business. Don't come in to a southern state with your DC activism bullcrap, forcing your progressive ideals on a population that doesn't want them.

    Live and let live.
    I think that gay people would agree with the "mind your own business" sentiment, thus the current situation.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Can't on the 14th, "interracial" was what it was about. It wasn't however about homosexuality.
    The 14th amendment doesnt mention race.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Wouldn't it?

    If the federal government hadn't stepped in, would Alabama still be segregated today? I seriously doubt it. Just because progress sometimes occurs more slowly in some places compared to others, doesn't give Uncle Sam the right to force-feed that progress upon an unwilling public.

    You have to let things run their course, let people determine their own destiny.
    I feel no particular compulsion to wait for voters to be ready for individual liberty.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Wouldn't it?

    If the federal government hadn't stepped in, would Alabama still be segregated today? I seriously doubt it. .
    You're kidding, right?
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I feel no particular compulsion to wait for voters to be ready for individual liberty.
    Do you live in Alabama? No? Then it's none of your damn business how they go about their lives. Should we conquer Cuba in order to install a democracy? I mean after all, I feel no particular compulsion to wait for the Cubans to be ready for individual liberty.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You're kidding, right?
    Not at all. Look, we fought a revolutionary war. yay, us. Meanwhile, Canada gained their independence simply by letting history take its course.

    For some reason, in this country, we feel compelled to turn everything in to a civil war. Everything's gotta be a damn battle to be fought.

    Chill, and just let things play out. You really think Alabama would still be segregated today if the Feds hadn't stepped in? No chance! With television, the internet, everyone is so much more interconnected these days. That relic of history would have run its course. And the concept of state's rights would still somewhat be in tact.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Do you live in Alabama? No? Then it's none of your damn business how they go about their lives. Should we conquer Cuba in order to install a democracy? I mean after all, I feel no particular compulsion to wait for the Cubans to be ready for individual liberty.
    I see. So in Alabama, individual liberty takes a back seat to the moral disapproval of the voters.

    Unfortunately for you, the constitution and the courts disagree.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I see. So in Alabama, individual liberty takes a back seat to the moral disapproval of the voters.

    Unfortunately for you, the constitution and the courts disagree.
    Ahh, an appeal to authority. Awesome. So the courts disagree, therefore I'm wrong.

    Using your logic, slavery was justified in the early 1800's because the courts upheld it and it was legal. So which is it? Are the courts almighty or aren't they?

    Personally, I hate living in a jurocracy. I prefer to let the people govern themselves, as opposed to an unelected judge "interpreting" the constitution however his agenda sees fit. But maybe I'm weird.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Ahh, an appeal to authority. Awesome. So the courts disagree, therefore I'm wrong.

    Using your logic, slavery was justified in the early 1800's because the courts upheld it and it was legal. So which is it? Are the courts almighty or aren't they?

    Personally, I hate living in a jurocracy. I prefer to let the people govern themselves, as opposed to an unelected judge "interpreting" the constitution however his agenda sees fit. But maybe I'm weird.
    These judges are unelected specifically so their decisions will be based on the law and the constitution rather than worrying about their re-election. I know you personally would rather have judges change their decision based on election math and corporate donations, but not me.

    Maybe I am weird, but I think individual liberty is more important than your tyranny of the people. Is there a reason you didn't respond to that point?

    And what about your interpretation? Why is yours sacrosanct?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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