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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    "In 2003, during Moore's first term as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, he refused to remove a monument of the Ten Commandments (which he had commissioned) from the Alabama Judicial Building despite orders to do so from a federal judge. On November 13, 2003, the Alabama Court of the Judiciary unanimously removed Moore from his post as Chief Justice.... Moore contended that federal judges who ruled against his actions consider "obedience of a court order superior to all other concerns, even the suppression of belief in the sovereignty of God."[1]..."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore
    Yes, and I hear that the price of tea in China has gone up due to unusual weather this season.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, I think ignoring intent leaves us wide open for this living constitution bullcrap. Want to add sexual orientation to the list, do it the right way, through constitutional amendment. Or hell, just do it the half right way and have the SCOTUS add sexual orientation to the list of protected classes (something they've refused to do).
    There is no "right way" when it comes to achieving basic dignity and equality, and i notice the bigots will find a way to complain regardless, like after DADT repeal, "Lawrence," and "Windsor"

    Their objections don't concern me

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    "compelling governmental interest" refers to matters of denying equal protection, not instituting barbaric crimes against humanity as you are suggesting here
    Really? Because I always thought that compelling state interest referred to intituting barbaric crimes against humanity. It's good that there are so many brilliant posters in this thread to set me straight.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're entirely wrong in your little rant. I do not support a massive state government. And no, until the constitution was amended black folk did not have the right to be free, at least federally speaking. The same goes for women's rights. You are soooo wrong about the Japanese-American example. Despite your silly use of the hyphenation - they were fully American and that their rights weren't honored was fully down to the FEDERAL government and judicial misconduct.

    Claiming rights that do not exist is indeed a popular concept that you seem very comfortable with, but it also is not a valid argument.
    All adults have a right to be free and treated as equals. Governments don't decide who has rights, they determine who has rights under the law. Blacks and women in the USA did not have their rights recognized by the USA's government, but they always had rights.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Are you for equal rights? Size of a Govt is not relevant.
    No kidding, it's like they think the concept of equality begins and ends at national and state borders

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    All adults have a right to be free and treated as equals. Governments don't decide who has rights, they determine who has rights under the law. Blacks and women in the USA did not have their rights recognized by the USA's government, but they always had rights.

    "...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...."
    That took a Civil War and more, Civil Rights Act for one, school busing, another, a long list, before becoming applicable. And today it is still not self evident.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It's good that there are so many brilliant posters in this thread to set me straight.
    any time

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    any time
    Good to know, because I was kind of wondering, if the the concept of equality with respect to state-recognition of marriage "doesnt begin and end at national and state borders," where does this occur? The middle of the Pacific Ocean? The Moon?

    Absent a state, why is there a natural right to have your marriage recognized by a state?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Good thing then that it wasn't intended as "a reason to ban same-sex marriage."

    Why do you want to ban same-sex marriage?
    I know it wasn't intended that way. I said as much. You don't actually have any arguments on any subject. You should now have proper clarification of my perception of your "contribution" to this thread.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You don't actually have any arguments on any subject. You should now have proper clarification of my perception of your "contribution" to this thread.
    Well I would have hoped that you'd learned something, but by all means, go back to telling us about how Moore is going to be removed and disbarred for his (completely legal) actions, how the Supreme court in denying a stay says that same-sex licenses must be issued in Alabama, how anyone refusing to issue same-sex licenses is breaking the law and is in contempt of court, and how the judges decision "overturns" state law and is binding statewide.

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