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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yeah, well... also true of over half the states in the country as well as Federal district courts, circuit courts, and even the Supreme Court. So... you're not really one to talk about a "dearth of the educated."
    Federal court judges aren't elected either, so although i think it *should* be mandatory that they at least obtain a law degree and pass the bar exam, they do not have to pander to bigoted voters

    All current supreme court judges do meet these standards, and unlike alabama probate judges, there is no chance anyone who does not would be confirmed. This has not happened since the early 1940s in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Do you really think this scumbag moore will not do the same after SCOTUS rules definitely that SSM is a constitutional right? Since he issued this threat after SCOTUS refused to stay the federal court ruling (which does make it binding), i'm guessing he will really dig his own grave in june. Although if there's any justice, he will be ousted long before then.
    LOL, it never ceases to amaze... Had the Supreme Court done anything to make the case binding, we wouldn't need to wait until next summer for a decision, would we?

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Federal court judges aren't elected either, so although i think it *should* be mandatory that they at least obtain a law degree and pass the bar exam, they do not have to pander to bigoted voters

    All current supreme court judges do meet these standards, and unlike alabama probate judges, there is no chance anyone who does not would be confirmed. This has not happened since the early 1940s in fact.
    I wouldn't be surprised if a non-lawyer were confirmed on the Supreme Court sometime in the future, there certainly are a good number of people who support the idea and make their voices heard when it comes time to nominate.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    They're not in contempt because they were not party to the case (please read that slowly so it sinks in). Not that it hasn't been tried, but the complaint was quickly dismissed by the very same judge who wrote the order for the very same reason I've given you.
    The ones who were not held in contempt so far saw to it to cease marriage licenses altogether, not just deny gay couples. That's because, technically, they are (finally) not violating equal protection

    All of the others can be arrested, disbarred, impeached, sued etc. This particular judge on friday will be just the first to be given an ultimatum

    What's especially stupid about their position and grandstanding (and by extension, the voters) is that these couples can just drive down to another probate office to marry:

    "Ms. Ridley and Ms. Roysden, the couple who had been turned away in Florence in the morning, indeed made it to Birmingham later in the day."

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    LOL, it never ceases to amaze... Had the Supreme Court done anything to make the case binding, we wouldn't need to wait until next summer for a decision, would we?
    We shouldn't have to wait, but it is binding on alabama, just as the 6th circuit's ruling will be overturned and be binding on the entire nation, despite "Snyder" is the defendant

    The very same judge who issued this ruling will in the coming weeks be personally overseeing compliance. Then you will see just how binding it is

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, I think if the history of the United States hasn't succeeded in educating you as to the realities of the world, I'm unlikely to be able to do so. Hang on to your quaint, albeit antiquated notions. They are mildly amusing. Sort of like the idea of blacksmiths and shepherds.
    I get the feeling that you have not really read my posts and have no idea what I'm saying, because you are arguing to things that I haven't even touched on. Civil War, Race, segregation, etc... nothing to do with the points I have made.

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if a non-lawyer were confirmed on the Supreme Court sometime in the future, there certainly are a good number of people who support the idea and make their voices heard when it comes time to nominate.
    Yeah but i just laugh at the theatrics. It sounds like that harvard MBA senator decrying obama's statement that everyone should have access to a college education. What gets supported/opposed in politics is entirely separate from what actually happens.

    Anyone without a law degree up for nomination to SCOTUS would get lampooned by the media. It's an unnecessary risk for any president to make, when there are thousands of other choices

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    We shouldn't have to wait, but it is binding on alabama, just as the 6th circuit's ruling will be overturned and be binding on the entire nation.

    The very same judge who issued this ruling will in the coming weeks be personally overseeing compliance. Then you will see just how binding it is
    She can issue orders to officials in her district and force them to comply , and other judges can use her decision as persuasive precedent in the other two districts, and also force officials to comply, but the ruling itself is non-binding. The only federal ruling that will be binding on state courts is that which comes from the Supreme Court this summer.

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Anyone without a law degree up for nomination to SCOTUS would get lampooned by the media. It's an unnecessary risk for any president to make, when there are thousands of other choices
    If it were to happen, it would have to be someone very well respected and popular. I, too, would prefer a brilliant legal mind, but could see someone else being confirmed if the public were behind it.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    LOL, it never ceases to amaze... Had the Supreme Court done anything to make the case binding, we wouldn't need to wait until next summer for a decision, would we?
    The case is binding. Why do you think it isn't?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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