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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    And it is apparent from your post that you don't understand the Bill of Rights, the Fourteenth Amendment, or the fact that the Civil War ended this bull**** debate between the rights of states and the pre-eminence of the Federal Government and the Federal Courts. Sadly, you are not alone in denying reality.
    Oh, please, educate me! Educate us all. Yes, explain how the civil war was fought and the 14th amendment passed to give the federal government the power to force States to recognize gay marriage. LOL! Oh, boy this is just great stuff.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, orders are enforceable, but that doesn't mean that district court decisions are binding on state courts. Probate judges are free to ignore her opinion (as many are doing now) but not free to ignore an order (which may come down later this week). I can't easily link the opinion right now because I'm on my phone (someone quoted it earlier in this thread, maybe WorldWatcher?).

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    Original order -->> https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...-and-order.pdf

    Clarifying order -->>1:14-cv-00208 #65 Order Clarifying Judgment

    Additional Parties -->> https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-2-10-15.html


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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    May I suggest emigration as a possible solution for you?
    Yes, keep them coming. When someone replies with personal insults and asinine remarks, it gives me a good idea of the thought process I'm dealing with. And, you're basically telling me that you give up and all you can do is resort to name calling. So, thanks.
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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Here is a major problem with the judicial branch in alabama, aside from its total disrespect for the constitution and federal authority: The state allows judges to not even be a lawyer! I guess there's a severe dearth of the educated in alabama who will pander enough to bigoted voters to achieve election.
    Yeah, well... also true of over half the states in the country as well as Federal district courts, circuit courts, and even the Supreme Court. So... you're not really one to talk about a "dearth of the educated."

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yeah, but with bigots around who conveniently forget history, it's hard for those of us on the left to let them get away with 'memory loss'.
    No, it's hard for those on the left to come up with a scholarly, well thought out response, as far as I can see. But you sure are providing tons of imformation about your character.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    He's latching onto the difference between an order and a decision and resting his entire argument on it.
    And failing.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Really then why has the # of probate judges refusing to comply with the federal court ruling gone down from 54 to 44 in a *single day*? Why aren't they waiting until Friday at least?

    Because they know they're in contempt and will be sued personally if they do not
    They're not in contempt because they were not party to the case (please read that slowly so it sinks in). Not that it hasn't been tried, but the complaint was quickly dismissed by the very same judge who wrote the order for the very same reason I've given you.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    No, it's hard for those on the left to come up with a scholarly, well thought out response, as far as I can see. But you sure are providing tons of imformation about your character.
    As are you. It's because of people with your attitude that we had black and white drinking fountains and black students not allowed to attend state universities. Thankfully, you are a vanishing breed.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, please, educate me! Educate us all. Yes, explain how the civil war was fought and the 14th amendment passed to give the federal government the power to force States to recognize gay marriage. LOL! Oh, boy this is just great stuff.
    No, I think if the history of the United States hasn't succeeded in educating you as to the realities of the world, I'm unlikely to be able to do so. Hang on to your quaint, albeit antiquated notions. They are mildly amusing. Sort of like the idea of blacksmiths and shepherds.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Do you really think this scumbag moore will not do the same after SCOTUS rules definitely that SSM is a constitutional right? Since he issued this threat after SCOTUS refused to stay the federal court ruling (which does make it binding), i'm guessing he will really dig his own grave in june. Although if there's any justice, he will be ousted long before then.
    Justice for a bigot? In Alabama? They don't give them justice, they elect them to public office.
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