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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    ...unless you are a baker who doesn't want to bake a gay wedding cake, or a photographer who doesn't want to photograph a gay wedding.

    Really, this "it doesn't affect you" BS is just BS, and it doesn't fly any more, it's already affecting people.
    Yes, keep naming two extremely rare and unlikely scenarios as if it comes remotely close to the harm done to gay couples. Taking pictures for a half hour doesn't force you to 'approve' anything either. It just means doing your ****ing job the same as always

    Tons of people do things they don't like in their jobs, and i would laugh in the face of any right wing tears, except i know they don't give a damn about the bigot baker or photographer, except to use them to oppress

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Are you saying we are less morally bankrupt today?
    if anyone doubted southerners are nostalgic for slavery...

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Then they will stop saying so, and that will put an end to your game. Do you want justice or do you just want it your way?
    Until a pattern is proven and they're hauled into court and have to choose between committing perjury and losing a lawsuit

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    A ruling that is (for now) non-binding. Feel free to file a complaint for contempt, but it will be dismissed same as the others.
    Do you really think this scumbag moore will not do the same after SCOTUS rules definitely that SSM is a constitutional right? Since he issued this threat after SCOTUS refused to stay the federal court ruling (which does make it binding), i'm guessing he will really dig his own grave in june. Although if there's any justice, he will be ousted long before then.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You mean the American Revolution where progressives rebelled against aristocracy and conservatives stayed loyal to the king? You might want to check that "we" stuff, then. The only rebellion that someone you could call "we" participated in took place in the 1860s, not the 1770s.
    Yes, that one with those big government "progressives" rebelling against the big government. I never knew that the founder's motivation was to create their own big government that controlled our lives. Boy, you'd never know it by the stuff they wrote. LOL!
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    District court decisions are non-binding on state courts. I'll keep repeating myself until it sinks in or people learn to research things for themselves rather than pulling opinions out of their arses.


    No, it does not, as the judge herself has already explained in dismissing contempt complaints earlier this week.
    Really then why has the # of probate judges refusing to comply with the federal court ruling gone down from 54 to 44 in a *single day*? Why aren't they waiting until Friday at least?

    Because they know they're in contempt and will be sued personally if they do not

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    He's latching onto the difference between an order and a decision and resting his entire argument on it.
    Also known as understanding the law.

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    re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses[W:344,535,718]

    Here is a major problem with the judicial branch in alabama, aside from its total disrespect for the constitution and federal authority: The state allows judges to not even be a lawyer! I guess there's a severe dearth of the educated in alabama who will pander enough to bigoted voters to achieve election.

    Take this comment from calhoun county judge martin: "My reading of the order that was issued by Justice Moore is that it is directed to probate judges and their agents or employees, and it is a direct order to us. That is something Iím going to follow until something tells me otherwise. I think itíd be inappropriate for me to comment on this, because itís undecided"

    Ok let's dissect what would be a brain fart to those who had a brain in the first place. Moore has no authority here. That "something tells me otherwise" would be the Supreme Court. It's also NOT undecided.

    I'm eagerly looking forward to her impending doom. It's outrageous she's even on the bench to begin with

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I'm sorry that is plainly nonsense. Federal district court orders are enforceable against the state. This is a Federal Constitutional question which gives the district court jurisdiction and since the Federal Constitution supersedes state law her decision is binding on the state.

    Do you have a link to her opinion? I'd like to read it for myself.
    Yes, orders are enforceable, but that doesn't mean that district court decisions are binding on state courts. Probate judges are free to ignore her opinion (as many are doing now) but not free to ignore an order (which may come down later this week). I can't easily link the opinion right now because I'm on my phone (someone quoted it earlier in this thread, maybe WorldWatcher?).

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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    To the bolded, that's interesting commentary. Which, if either, do you consider superior?
    i consider myself a global citizen only and that, unfortunately, federal power is needed to enforce basic human dignity and rights

    alabama is like a small but particularly annoying pothole, in that regard

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