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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From your source I find this interesting, though it might end up being nothing:
    Scalia said the same thing in his vitriolic dissent in the DOMA case....essentially, "the writing is on the wall". Anyone who thinks that this case isn't already over is really either an extreme optimist or just fooling themselves.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    apologies, didn't mean that you approve of him. But I assume Thomas does, and I don't remember Thomas ever suggesting that Scalia shouldn't trumpet his decisions in advance.
    You are reading too much into a passing comment of Thomas's. His reasoning for dissent had nothing to do with that.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Scalia said the same thing in his vitriolic dissent in the DOMA case....essentially, "the writing is on the wall". Anyone who thinks that this case isn't already over is really either an extreme optimist or just fooling themselves.
    Yeah, that is what people said after oral arguments for the ACA case. Then it turned out as almost no one predicted. Don't try and predict SCOTUS, it does not tend to go well.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Since when did state rights magically become superior to everything else, regardless of the law of right in question?
    No magic. When this nation was founded, states ran the show and the federal government was a rather small entity concerned mainly with national defense.

    Over the years, states have ceded more and more power to the federal government. It began with a power grab by the Supreme Court (until the 1800's, it was NOT the case that the Supreme Court could declare laws of congress "unconstitutional.") The trend has continued and continues to this day.

    In my opinion, we've gone too far.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because state governments are willing to enforce your bigotry in defiance of the constitution.
    So who gets to decide what's bigotry and what isn't, some lawmaker in Washington?

    If Texas wants to sell assault weapons or ban gay marriage, it's none of your damn business in New York what we do. It always used to be that way, that was the intention of the founding fathers, but we've lost our identity as the UNITED STATES and become a monolith.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So it's the federal government (federal court) dictating to the states what they can and can't do. Again, when did we become that country?

    The courts have far, far overstepped their constitutional authority long ago.
    The 14th amendment applies to states. This is the constitution dictating to the states what they can and can't do.

    If that bothers you, well, tough.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Do you have any understanding of the United States Constitution and the Supremacy Clause?
    Have you read any American history?

    We're the UNITED STATES, emphasis on STATES. The way things are now, we ought to change the name of our country to the American Federal Republic.

    What the hell does a state do anymore? I'll tell you, what we have become is NOT what the original founders had in mind.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So who gets to decide what's bigotry and what isn't, some lawmaker in Washington?

    If Texas wants to sell assault weapons or ban gay marriage, it's none of your damn business in New York what we do. It always used to be that way, that was the intention of the founding fathers, but we've lost our identity as the UNITED STATES and become a monolith.
    Personally I think the constitution applying to states is better.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The 14th amendment applies to states. This is the constitution dictating to the states what they can and can't do.

    If that bothers you, well, tough.
    The 14th amendment says nothing about gay marriage. If the federal court ruled that way, it's a loose "interpretation" as they are so fond of doing. Bend the constitution to fit whatever pet agenda you have that day.

    If gay marriage is constitutional, why didn't we have gay marriage immediately after the 14th amendment was ratified?

    The federal court is overstepping its bounds and trampling on state's rights in this case.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The 14th amendment says nothing about gay marriage. If the federal court ruled that way, it's a loose "interpretation" as they are so fond of doing. Bend the constitution to fit whatever pet agenda you have that day.
    The 14th amendment says equal protection under the law. If your assertion that the lack of specifics means it doesn't apply, then you're declaring the 14th amendment doesn't apply to anything. Is that your assertion?

    f gay marriage is constitutional, why didn't we have gay marriage immediately after the 14th amendment was ratified?
    By this logic, no law has ever been unconstitutional unless a court instantly decided such. Interesting. So you now believe every single gun law is constitutional, right?

    The federal court is overstepping its bounds and trampling on state's rights in this case.
    No, it is not. The states are trampling on the rights of the individual, which apparently doesn't bother you. Why do you throw away individual liberty so easily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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