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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    For the same reason I can't streak times square
    Wrong. It is not the same reason at all, in any way, shape or form. No legal argument could be made that way. Your personal opinion to the contrary matters zilch in court.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It's not gender discriminaton. Which gender is being discriminated against?
    Both in the application of the bans depending on which gender of person is requesting to get married.

    Just as if there was a law that said that only men could be police officers and only women could be teachers but that the state would ensure the pay average is the same for each group to ensure that neither profession is getting more pay/benefits than the other. This would be gender discrimination against each gender eventhough both genders are restricted from doing something and both are allowed to do something. Application of the law is on an individual basis.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep seems like that might happen for a few judges . . . .

    Most Alabama Counties Defy Feds by Blocking Gay Marriage - ABC News
    I was thinking about my own case of when I went to get married, and I would be pissed if this went on for more than a few days. Some people are limited on how much time they have to get married and such delays based solely on something like this, which is in violation of a federal order, deserve for those making these decisions to face some punishment and to have to be held accountable for anyone who is financially impacted solely on this decision which is made to violate rights. I hope there are some opposite sex couples who join the suit as well.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    What the hell are you even talking about?
    If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    There is no possibility of contempt because they were not parties to the case.

    The decision is non binding because it is a district court case. It is not even binding within the same district much less the entire state. The only thing "binding" (for lack of a better word) is the order directed at the defendant, which is the Attorney General with no power over issuing marriage licenses.
    No. The Supreme Court has repeatedly clarified this.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's about time there was an uprising against the all powerful federal government. They've been grabbing power that they were never supposed to have for hundreds of years. I think we need some amendments that give the States a much quicker route to knock the feds back when they do what they are not allowed to do. And all these judges, including the Supreme Court, need to have limited terms and an a better check against their actions.
    This is not an issue to make such an "uprising" about because it will lead to a very rude awakening for those who want to believe that the majority or any significant portion of the people want the states, any state, to challenge the federal government over this. They will face more backlash than they may want to believe. The majority of young people, in large amounts, even young Republicans, support same sex marriage being legal. The majority of the opposition to same sex marriage being legal is older people. This gives the supporters of making same sex marriage a clear advantage in any violent uprising against the federal government solely based on this case.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    ...unless you are a baker who doesn't want to bake a gay wedding cake, or a photographer who doesn't want to photograph a gay wedding.

    Really, this "it doesn't affect you" BS is just BS, and it doesn't fly any more, it's already affecting people.
    Has nothing whatsoever to do with same sex marriage being legal, proven by the fact that none of the most famous cases were in places where same sex couples could legally marry at the time the discrimination occurred.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If judges are determining the law of hte land, one's vote doesn't count for much.
    Your vote is not really supposed to count for much when it comes into conflict with the US Constitution. And in order for the US Constitution to be effective in protecting all rights, it must be interpreted by someone or a group of someones who can then make a decision on how it applies to a given situation.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't care about the 14th amendment. The point is that the law isn't determined by the legislature, it's determined by the "interpretations" of activist judges. We as a nation are legislated to by judges.

    That's what bothers me. Not some specific ruling or some specific pet issue.
    And that is why there are checks in place to limit the power of the Justices, such as being able to change the US Constitution and ensuring there is a long, tedious (almost always) process for a challenged law to even be heard by the SCOTUS.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Then they will stop saying so, and that will put an end to your game. Do you want justice or do you just want it your way?
    And many already have. If people want to be stupid though and defy a law openly, then they are going to be punished for doing so. No one has said that public accommodation laws can be fully enforced because we cannot absolutely determine why a person is denying another person service. But if they claim that it is because of a reason that they cannot legally do, then that is them being stupid.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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