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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    A ruling that is (for now) non-binding. Feel free to file a complaint for contempt, but it will be dismissed with the others.
    The ruling is binding.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't care about the 14th amendment. The point is that the law isn't determined by the legislature, it's determined by the "interpretations" of activist judges. We as a nation are legislated to by judges.

    That's what bothers me. Not some specific ruling or some specific pet issue.
    Well get used to it. That is the way it has been under common law going back pretty much to the time of the Magna Carta.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The smart ones will, yes. These cases are hard to prove. The ones too dumb to hide it will be weeded out.

    Is it ideal? No. My ideal situation would be where nobody gets denied service based on characteristics they can't control. While we're at it, I'd like a unicorn and a winning lottery ticket. In the real world, we'll have to settle for what we have. A business chooses to operate for-profit and to hold out to the public. People don't choose to be latino or female or born in Sweden. When we have to weigh the rights of the two, I'm going to pick the private citizen over the for-profit publicly accommodating business.
    Well, guess what? Public businesses are owned by Latinos, females, and Swedes.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That's where you're wrong. The supreme court isn't granted the power to decide the constitutionality of the laws written by the legislature. If you disagree with that, go find the section of the constitution in which that power is expressly granted to it.

    The judiciary grabbed power that was never intended for it.

    The original intent of the supreme court was to settle international and inter-state disputes.


    Article 3, Section 2 - US CONSTITUTION (outlines the powers of the supreme court as granted by the constitution)

    The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;
    •to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;
    •to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;
    •to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;
    •to Controversies between two or more States;
    •between a State and Citizens of another State;
    •between Citizens of different States;
    •between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


    That's it. I don't see anything in there about "judicial review." That's a power the court granted itself after a massive power grab in the 1800's.
    That's your interpretation.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Well, guess what? Public businesses are owned by Latinos, females, and Swedes.
    Yes. So?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    A ruling that is (for now) non-binding. Feel free to file a complaint for contempt, but it will be dismissed same as the others.
    Why do you think it's non binding?

    Edit: And the SC this morning or yesterday declined to stay the Federal District Court's order pending appeal. Which
    puts any judges who fail to perform SS marriages in contempt. It also probably indicates how the court is going to go on it's upcoming SS marriage case.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. So?
    If I have to explain, you sure as hell won't understand.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The ruling is binding.
    On the Attorney General. Who doesn't issue licences.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    If I have to explain, you sure as hell won't understand.
    Try me. Assuming you have an argument. Otherwise dodge yet another question. Your choice.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When part of Obamacare was overturned as unconstitutional, did you say this?
    Actually, yes.

    The people elected Obama. The people elected the congress. Together, they passed a bill. If the people don't like that, they can elect new congressmen and a new president.

    I would rather have the People make decisions I disagree with than have power taken away from the people by robed judges with powdered wigs, who were not elected and are unaccountable for their actions.

    Funny enough, even Obama agrees with me. Or, at least he did back in 2012 when he called the supreme court "an unelected group of people."

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