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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    That leads reasonable people to believe the matter is already decided- just not yet announced.

    It's a pretty strong signal to not stay the order and put hundreds of marriages in potential legal limbo...there is no good reason to do this unless they already know how it's going to go. Note the dissent was only written by two justices, with Alito and Roberts not commenting.
    While certainly possible, it is by no means guaranteed why. Further, if it is such a signal, it is entirely inappropriate. I am as pro-SSM as you can be, but I do kinda think that a wait of a few more months is not going to kill any one and prevent a possible mess. Thomas does a good job of explaining why a stay would have been reasonable.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    While certainly possible, it is by no means guaranteed why. Further, if it is such a signal, it is entirely inappropriate. I am as pro-SSM as you can be, but I do kinda think that a wait of a few more months is not going to kill any one and prevent a possible mess. Thomas does a good job of explaining why a stay would have been reasonable.
    Why? Scalia has been pre-judging this case and others in every public forum he shows up on. Why is it suddenly this case where they should be careful not to telegraph their intentions?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    And yes, it would be a mess if the Supreme Court goes against SSM in their decision. But that's what they've been waiting for, right? for it to be so accepted that deciding anything besides "it's legal everywhere" would be a mess.....

    There are many stupid situations happening already because it's not legal in all states. The more entrenched it gets, the easier for them to make the (in my opinion) correct decision and legalize it in all states.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Why? Scalia has been pre-judging this case and others in every public forum he shows up on. Why is it suddenly this case where they should be careful not to telegraph their intentions?
    Why do you assume I approve of Scalia or any of his actions?
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why do you assume I approve of Scalia or any of his actions?
    apologies, didn't mean that you approve of him. But I assume Thomas does, and I don't remember Thomas ever suggesting that Scalia shouldn't trumpet his decisions in advance.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Since when did the federal government need to get involved in whether prisoners have the "right" to marry?

    We are so far removed from what the founders of this nation had in mind in terms of how our government is structured, it's ridiculous. I don't want the federal government involved with social issues.
    This isn't about federal government getting involved. There is no federal law at play, nor any action by any federal agency. These are state laws being challenged under the constitution. The question before the court is whether the state defining marriage as between a man and a woman is constitutional under the 14th amendment.

    The 14th amendment does apply to the states.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This isn't about federal government getting involved. There is no federal law at play, nor any action by any federal agency. These are state laws being challenged under the constitution. The question before the court is whether the state defining marriage as between a man and a woman is constitutional under the 14th amendment.

    The 14th amendment does apply to the states.
    So it's the federal government (federal court) dictating to the states what they can and can't do. Again, when did we become that country?

    The courts have far, far overstepped their constitutional authority long ago.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What ever happened to state's rights?

    Since when did marriage become a federal priority?
    Since when did state rights magically become superior to everything else, regardless of the law of right in question?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't want the federal government involved with social issues.
    Because state governments are willing to enforce your bigotry in defiance of the constitution.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So it's the federal government (federal court) dictating to the states what they can and can't do. Again, when did we become that country?

    The courts have far, far overstepped their constitutional authority long ago.
    Do you have any understanding of the United States Constitution and the Supremacy Clause?
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