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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You can keep using your own definitions of words, but you're going to have communications problems.

    How do you define public accommodation laws? Because yours seems to differ from reality.
    This has been explained over and over again, but Ill try it one more time: anybody can go into a bakery and buy any cake on display, and a craftsman does not have to accept a custom order from anybody. Not getting your way is not "discrimination", it's called freedom.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't want judges involved at all.
    When part of Obamacare was overturned as unconstitutional, did you say this?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    This has been explained over and over again, but Ill try it one more time: anybody can go into a bakery and buy any cake on display, and a craftsman does not have to accept a custom order from anybody. Not getting your way is not "discrimination", it's called freedom.
    Correct. Bakers can deny custom orders.

    But if they're dumb enough to deny custom orders and publicly say they're doing it because the customer is gay, they're going to get slapped. Because public accommodation laws exist.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The constitution is the supreme law of the land. Which part of that do you object to?
    The part that you invented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Correct. Bakers can deny custom orders.

    But if they're dumb enough to deny custom orders and publicly say they're doing it because the customer is gay, they're going to get slapped.
    Then they will stop saying so, and that will put an end to your game. Do you want justice or do you just want it your way?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Then they will stop saying so, and that will put an end to your game. Do you want justice or do you just want it your way?
    The smart ones will, yes. These cases are hard to prove. The ones too dumb to hide it will be weeded out.

    Is it ideal? No. My ideal situation would be where nobody gets denied service based on characteristics they can't control. While we're at it, I'd like a unicorn and a winning lottery ticket. In the real world, we'll have to settle for what we have. A business chooses to operate for-profit and to hold out to the public. People don't choose to be latino or female or born in Sweden. When we have to weigh the rights of the two, I'm going to pick the private citizen over the for-profit publicly accommodating business.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    The part that you invented.
    You think I invented the idea that the constitution is the supreme law of the land?

    Well, I guess this line of discussion is over then because there's nothing else to say.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You think I invented the idea that the constitution is the supreme law of the land?

    Well, I guess this line of discussion is over then because there's nothing else to say.
    Good.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    He violated a federal court ruling, duh
    A ruling that is (for now) non-binding. Feel free to file a complaint for contempt, but it will be dismissed same as the others.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    legislature isn't granted power to decide the constitutionality of its own laws. .
    That's where you're wrong. The supreme court isn't granted the power to decide the constitutionality of the laws written by the legislature. If you disagree with that, go find the section of the constitution in which that power is expressly granted to it.

    The judiciary grabbed power that was never intended for it.

    The original intent of the supreme court was to settle international and inter-state disputes.


    Article 3, Section 2 - US CONSTITUTION (outlines the powers of the supreme court as granted by the constitution)

    The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;
    •to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;
    •to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;
    •to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;
    •to Controversies between two or more States;
    •between a State and Citizens of another State;
    •between Citizens of different States;
    •between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


    That's it. I don't see anything in there about "judicial review." That's a power the court granted itself after a massive power grab in the 1800's.

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