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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    From your source I find this interesting, though it might end up being nothing:

    Two of the U.S. Supreme Court's conservative justices, Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia, dissented from the court's decision not to further delay gay marriage in Alabama.


    In a dissenting opinion, Thomas wrote that the high court's actions in allowing marriages to go ahead "may well be seen as a signal of the court's intended resolution of that question."
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    I saw that Thomas quote; so he thinks people should be denied their rights because it "might be seen as a signal" otherwise? he's funny. I hope he's right that it's a signal!

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    It is a pretty clear signal. The court is quite likely to rule in favor of gay marriage- that's why they declined to stay the federal decision. Normally, most decisions are stayed when the SCOTUS is deliberating the case.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    What ever happened to state's rights?

    Since when did marriage become a federal priority?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What ever happened to state's rights?

    Since when did marriage become a federal priority?
    since cases like Loving in the 1960s

    And the cases where prisoners got the right to marry as part of their constitutional rights

    States can control things like how the prisoner ceremony happens, but even Charles Manson has the right to marry

    Once marriage is defined as an inalienable right, states can't frack it up anymore by discriminating against couples based on race or gender. Or prison status

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    since cases like Loving in the 1960s

    And the cases where prisoners got the right to marry as part of their constitutional rights

    States can control things like how the prisoner ceremony happens, but even Charles Manson has the right to marry

    Once marriage is defined as an inalienable right, states can't frack it up anymore by discriminating against couples based on race or gender. Or prison status
    Since when did the federal government need to get involved in whether prisoners have the "right" to marry?

    We are so far removed from what the founders of this nation had in mind in terms of how our government is structured, it's ridiculous. I don't want the federal government involved with social issues.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I saw that Thomas quote; so he thinks people should be denied their rights because it "might be seen as a signal" otherwise? he's funny. I hope he's right that it's a signal!
    That was not his reasoning, no. Here is his dissent in full: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4a840_gol1.pdf. What should be noted is that he does make very good points in his dissent. If SCOTUS should rule against SSM, then it does leave the states with kinda a mess. It might very well have been better to grant the stay and let things be more fully resolved before the state starts allowing SSM.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What ever happened to state's rights?

    Since when did marriage become a federal priority?
    Insert 'interracial' before marriage and then think about it a bit.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That was not his reasoning, no. Here is his dissent in full: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4a840_gol1.pdf. What should be noted is that he does make very good points in his dissent. If SCOTUS should rule against SSM, then it does leave the states with kinda a mess. It might very well have been better to grant the stay and let things be more fully resolved before the state starts allowing SSM.
    That leads reasonable people to believe the matter is already decided- just not yet announced.

    It's a pretty strong signal to not stay the order and put hundreds of marriages in potential legal limbo...there is no good reason to do this unless they already know how it's going to go. Note the dissent was only written by two justices, with Alito and Roberts not commenting.
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