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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If they're based on such things as age, gender or race (for example) then they'd be discriminatory.
    How about religion?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You realize the Supreme Court is a branch of the federal government, right?

    When people speak of the Feds, they're generally speaking of all three branches of government

    And the supreme court was never intended to usurp the states
    You think i give a damn about pre 1800? SOMEONE has to uphold equal protection and prevent states and tyranny of majority from crushing every minority in sight. The congress sure as hell won't do it in modern times, so the onus falls on SCOTUS

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    You think i give a damn about pre 1800? SOMEONE has to uphold equal protection and prevent states and tyranny of majority from crushing every minority in sight. The congress sure as hell won't do it in modern times, so the onus falls on SCOTUS
    Cool so a bunch of unelected blowhards with no chance of ever being held accountable for anything. I'll pass on the jurocracy

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    swing and a miss.
    From someone who pities bigoted judges, i'll take that as a compliment

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The supremecy clause is garbage. But anyway, what federal law expressly gives gays the right to marry?
    You need to go back to "Libertarian" school. The constitution by and large does not grant you rights, it restricts the power of government. For example, the constitution doesn't give you the right to freedom of speech, it restricts the power of government in regards to its ability to restrict speech. Similarly, the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment restricts the power of government to deny anyone equal protection under the law. By not granting same sex couples the right to legal marriage recognition, a state is in clear violation of the 14th amendment, thus as it is a constitutional issue, the federal courts are exactly where it should be litigated.

    Jefferson was actually worried that by having a Bill of Rights, someone would come along in the future and actually think those were the only rights citizens had.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How about religion?
    So what about religion? I've shown (and you haven't managed to dispute) that gay marriage bans are gender discrimination. That's why gay marriage bans are reliably shot down.

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The supremecy clause is garbage. But anyway, what federal law expressly gives gays the right to marry?
    LOL.....Okie Dokie. Just saying that doesn't change the fact that the Supremacy Clause is part of the US Constitution and is one of the main tenements of the way our country operates. Do you really understand what the Supremacy Clause is and how it functions?

    As for your second question - while you are at it in your ConLaw research you might want to explore Equal Protection and the 14th Amendment. That should answer your question for you.
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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So what about religion? I've shown (and you haven't managed to dispute) that gay marriage bans are gender discrimination. That's why gay marriage bans are reliably shot down.
    Well gender and race you can't control. Religion you can. And you don't need to answer, I already know religious freedom is protected. So what if my religion tells me I must bear my dong when the clock strikes noon tomorrow at times square? Will Jesse Jackson and the civil rights brigade be there to dry my tears in jail?

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....Okie Dokie. Just saying that doesn't change the fact that the Supremacy Clause is part of the US Constitution and is one of the main tenements of the way our country operates. Do you really understand what the Supremacy Clause is and how it functions?

    As for your second question - while you are at it in your ConLaw research you might want to explore Equal Protection and the 14th Amendment. That should answer your question for you.
    Pretty sure the 14th amendment doesn't mention gays.

    So you have your supremecy clause, which says that federal law supersedes state law. But you have no federal law that expressly says all gays shall have the right to marry. So all you have is some federal judges who are liberally INTERPRETING the 14th amendment as it fits their agenda, who are then using the supremecy clause to impose their activism on the helpless people of Alabama

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    Re: Ala Chief Justice Tells Judges: Refuse Gay Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    1.)What ever happened to state's rights?
    2.)Since when did marriage become a federal priority?
    1.) states rights are fully intact and not infringed on as many court cases have pointed out
    2.) who said it was? equal rights is an issue right now because states are violating it and COURT CASES make it an issue. Take away the violations and the feds dont have to get involved . . .its how government works
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