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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You were stating the Iranian lie as if it had some value in the discussion.
    Are you referring to my comment that Iran has maintained all along that their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes?
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Who knows. Bush said that there were stock piles of WMD in Iraq. ......
    And it turned out that the sanctions had worked, the WMD had decayed and Saddam had only been acting as if he still had them. Idiots are always a danger. But the problem is that some idiots will violently rob or kill you, if you let them. Ask the Ukrainians.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Goshin, the point is what is the best way forward. I have said again and again that Iran has this knowledge now. They know exactly how to do these things. As such, the best way forward is one in which the conditions are made such that they do not want to do them, along with allowing them to enrich under strict scrutiny. Otherwise the only thing would be infinite confrontation with Iran. Do you really think that is realistic?
    I won't speak for Goshin, but there are indeed those individuals in America and Israel that do, and are chomping at the bit to get on with it. Can I say, "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    And it turned out that the sanctions had worked, the WMD had decayed and Saddam had only been acting as if he still had them. Idiots are always a danger. But the problem is that some idiots will violently rob or kill you, if you let them. Ask the Ukrainians.
    Lol, that you believe that. Yes, all those stockpiles north, South, East and west (of Baghdad) and their delivery systems that could have produced mushroom clouds over US cities, decayed between the time BUSHCO said it all was there, and the time Hans Blix turned the country upside down.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I won't speak for Goshin, but there are indeed those individuals in America and Israel that do, and are chomping at the bit to get on with it. Can I say, "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"
    It does indeed appear to be that way and the problem simply cannot be solved that way. The only thing that can do is to create the incentive such that they actually want to do it. You can stop it temporarily, but it will come back. What type of solution is that?

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It does indeed appear to be that way and the problem simply cannot be solved that way. The only thing that can do is to create the incentive such that they actually want to do it. You can stop it temporarily, but it will come back. What type of solution is that?
    Iran has a neighbour to the East and a neighbour to the west that both have nuclear weapons, not real sure of their relationship with Pakistan, but we know there's no love lost between them and Israel, and they've both been punking each other for a long time, and presently, the Middle East is in greater turmoil then it's ever been in my lifetime. I can certainly understand that Iran might want a nuclear deterrent, but I hope in the end that that isn't their ambition, and I'd like to see the nuclear powers do the RESPONSIBLE thing and eliminate all nuclear weapons that are vastly too indiscriminate to have any legitimacy in war, ever!
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Iran has a neighbour to the East and a neighbour to the west that both have nuclear weapons, not real sure of their relationship with Pakistan, but we know there's no love lost between them and Israel, and they've both been punking each other for a long time, and presently, the Middle East is in greater turmoil then it's ever been in my lifetime. I can certainly understand that Iran might want a nuclear deterrent, but I hope in the end that that isn't their ambition, and I'd like to see the nuclear powers do the RESPONSIBLE thing and eliminate all nuclear weapons that are vastly too indiscriminate to have any legitimacy in war, ever!
    I agree that it is not unrealistic to think that Iran would want such a deterrent. But I think that they understand that if they were to actually try to build one that it would invite a very brutal response. Therefore they probably want to actually know how to build one. I think they already pretty much know how to do it. They probably want to be able to build one quickly if need be. What can be done realistically is not create the incentives such that they do not want to build one, and make sure that if they decide to build one, they cannot do it quickly. Rigid inspections are one way to insure that they cannot build one quickly.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Morning MMC

    I said to Excon that my understanding that Iran is developing ICBMs is based on the fact that they are developing the technology to launch satellites into space.

    But that aside Russia, China, India and Pakistan all have ICBMs. Does that mean that the U.S. should not negotiate deals with them? Recently, the U.S. negotiated a significant nuclear deal with India.

    Over and above that, Iran has the knowledge on how to enrich uranium. Iran has the knowledge on how to launch satellites into space. Do you really think that can be changed through military means?


    Heya Steel. Seems that would be based off or conceding the point to the Iranians that they are doing such for peaceful purposes. Which their intentions have shown otherwise. Their behaviors show otherwise, and even their rhetoric shows this.

    Yet even though all of the evidence undisputed for years now is that Iran has violated the commitment it made under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty not to seek nuclear weapons. And this is not just any treaty, this is the treaty that is critical for prevention of proliferation of nuclear weapons.

    Bo peeps way of attempting to show the Iranians.....that the US is not a threat to them. Only reinforces to them we are weak and rather than have problems with them. We will do what we can to avoid such.

    You don't think should be projected to them do you?

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol, that you believe that. Yes, all those stockpiles north, South, East and west (of Baghdad) and their delivery systems that could have produced mushroom clouds over US cities, decayed between the time BUSHCO said it all was there, and the time Hans Blix turned the country upside down.
    Had Saddam let Blix turn the country upside down instead of Bush, there would have needed be no incursion. Everyone would have known, what had happened to the known WMD.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I agree that it is not unrealistic to think that Iran would want such a deterrent. But I think that they understand that if they were to actually try to build one that it would invite a very brutal response. Therefore they probably want to actually know how to build one. I think they already pretty much know how to do it. They probably want to be able to build one quickly if need be. What can be done realistically is not create the incentives such that they do not want to build one, and make sure that if they decide to build one, they cannot do it quickly. Rigid inspections are one way to insure that they cannot build one quickly.
    Did the US allow a tribunal of countries to determine whether or not we developed a nuclear weapon? This is Iran's business. And hopefully, they will do as they say they are doing and develop nuclear power for civilian purposes. Btw, you failed to respond to the meat of my post, I'd like to know what you think of the rest of it, thanks.
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