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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So? Just because Egypt doesnt allow your ships to pass through THEIR canal is not an excuse to go to war. Trying to shift blame on Britain and France is a silly excuse too.
    Wrong, what's silly is not recognizing that it was indeed an act of aggression.

    Lie. Isreal started using bulldozers in the DMZ and then started raiding into Jordanian territory and attacked Egypt without provocation. A total war of aggression.
    History revisionism at its finest.
    The blocking of the straits of Tiran was a casus beli and an act of war. Calling it a lie is like claiming that the Earth is flat, but I do believe wholeheartedly that you believe in that too and blame Israel for it as well.

    Another lie. There was a ceasefire in 1981 and the PLO was adhering to it. Isreal claimed it attacked because Isreal's ambassador got attacked in London by an Iraqi terror unit, no less. Lets not forget the Shatila massacre which was an act of genocide.
    An act of massacre, not genocide, you clearly have no idea of the meaning of the words that you're using and it's hilarious to watch, and an act of massacre not carried by the hands of Israel so yeah let's not blame anyone but Israel for it shall we.
    Also, the war was started due to terrorism so you've miserably failed at recognizing that it was not Israel that was the aggressor, once more.

    Lie #3, Hezbollah kidnapped a soldier while he was occupying the Sheba Farms area (which Isreal stole from Lebanon) and Isreal attacks and invades South Lebanon again.
    What the hell are you even talking about. Hezbollah killed Israeli soldiers and kidnapped two more, that's an act of aggression that your favorite terror group is responsible for. To claim that Israel went to a war of aggression afterwards when it was responding to an attack is pathetic in unspeakable manners. You've been reading too much on thecompleteguidetothejihadistbeginner.net eh.

    It's obvious that any connection your opinions may have with history is completely coincidental isn't it? You're going to twist anything, shamelessly, to fit your twisted Islamic fundamentalist agenda. Sad really.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, I would prefer that Iran not produce a nuclear weapon. I would also prefer that the US had not developed and used the son of a bitch. But I can't understand the hand wringing over something that might happen while excusing what has happened.
    But you can feel that way without actually buying into the lies coming out of Iran like you did in that naive statement. It hurts your position to come off that ill informed.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, I would prefer that Iran not produce a nuclear weapon. I would also prefer that the US had not developed and used the son of a bitch. But I can't understand the hand wringing over something that might happen while excusing what has happened.
    Oh, are you saying you would have preferred WWII to continue on and having more people killed and more Innocent people killed? That the US shouldn't have ended the war in the way it did.

    Would have whole sale slaughter been better?

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, I would prefer that Iran not produce a nuclear weapon. I would also prefer that the US had not developed and used the son of a bitch. But I can't understand the hand wringing over something that might happen while excusing what has happened.
    Harry Truman is my favorite president of all of those who served in my lifetime. The reason is that he didn't avoid making the hardest decision any president has had to make - that of dropping nuclear bombs on Japan. His action literally saved millions of lives - many millions. It was brutal way to save them to be sure but it seems obvious to me that nothing else would have ended the war without those millions of lost lives.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Iran does not pose a significant direct nuclear threat to the United States.
    Now? No. Soon? Yes






    Obama can't be this stupid.
    Video at link.

    Obama: According to Iran's Supreme Leader, "It Would Be Contrary To Their Faith To Obtain A Nuclear Weapon"

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    PRESIDENT OBAMA: The issues now are sufficiently narrowed and sufficiently clarified where we're at a point where they need to make a decision. We are presenting to them in a unified fashion, the P5+1 supported by a coalition of countries around the world are presenting to them a deal that allows them to have peaceful nuclear power but gives us the absolute assurance that is verifiable that they are not pursuing a nuclear weapon.

    And if in fact what they claim is true, which is they have no aspiration to get a nuclear weapon, that in fact, according to their Supreme Leader, it would be contrary to their faith to obtain a nuclear weapon, if that is true, there should be the possibility of getting a deal. They should be able to get to yes. But we don't know if that's going to happen.


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    Obama: According to Iran's Supreme Leader, "It Would Be Contrary To Their Faith To Obtain A Nuclear Weapon" | Video | RealClearPolitics
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Now? No. Soon? Yes
    So you think that just because Netanyahu has said something that it is true?

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Sarkozy made an interesting comment about Netanyahu

    rench President Nicolas Sarkozy branded Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "a liar" in a private conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama that was accidentally broadcast to journalists during last week's G20 summit in Cannes.

    "I cannot bear Netanyahu, he's a liar," Sarkozy told Obama, unaware that the microphones in their meeting room had been switched on, enabling reporters in a separate location to listen in to a simultaneous translation.

    "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him even more often than you," Obama replied, according to the French interpreter.
    Sarkozy tells Obama Netanyahu is a liar | Reuters

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Now? No. Soon? Yes






    Obama can't be this stupid.
    Video at link.

    Obama: According to Iran's Supreme Leader, "It Would Be Contrary To Their Faith To Obtain A Nuclear Weapon"

    [...]

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: The issues now are sufficiently narrowed and sufficiently clarified where we're at a point where they need to make a decision. We are presenting to them in a unified fashion, the P5+1 supported by a coalition of countries around the world are presenting to them a deal that allows them to have peaceful nuclear power but gives us the absolute assurance that is verifiable that they are not pursuing a nuclear weapon.

    And if in fact what they claim is true, which is they have no aspiration to get a nuclear weapon, that in fact, according to their Supreme Leader, it would be contrary to their faith to obtain a nuclear weapon, if that is true, there should be the possibility of getting a deal. They should be able to get to yes. But we don't know if that's going to happen.


    [...]

    Obama: According to Iran's Supreme Leader, "It Would Be Contrary To Their Faith To Obtain A Nuclear Weapon" | Video | RealClearPolitics


    Oh yes he can.

    If they want to have nuclear energy, then they can have it the way South Korea gets it, the way most of the world gets it, and that is they enrich and reprocess abroad, and then it’s shipped in, and they put it in their fuel rods. And they use that to power their country. There’s no need to have an enrichment capability unless you intend to one day weaponized the program.

    The only reason why you develop long-range rockets, inter-continental missiles, which is what they’re trying to get to, is in order to put a nuclear warhead on it. You don’t use that for conventional purposes.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    And it sounds as if you are a believer.
    Who knows. Bush said that there were stock piles of WMD in Iraq. Rumsfeld said he knew where they were, they were in points to the north, and to the south and to the East and to the west (of Baghdad) while all along Saddam Hussein was insisting he hadn't any. Hans Blix searched high and low, said he even had access to SH presidential palaces, looked under his bed, continued to report he could find nothing, was eventually told by Bush it didn't matter, we're going in tomorrow, you need to get your team out now. Hans Blix returned home and wrote that scathing report accusing Bush of...........................well, point being, PROVE that Iran is making or has made a nuclear weapon, and then we can have the discussion about whether or not that's the concern you fearful think it is.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh yes he can.
    On the rest I agree, but just as his supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, I think it is intentional.
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