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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Left and right are ideologies, not barometers of intelligence, there are both smart and stupid people subscribing to both. What a failed observation.
    I take the word "failed," as you use it, to mean my observation does not accord with yours. Evidently it irks you that anyone would dare not to appreciate your preternatural wisdom.

    I repeat--most of the ignorant hicks I have had to be around, in graduate school and elsewhere, have been leftists. Mark Levin once said something to the effect that leftism is the philosophy of the stupid, and I tend to agree with him. Ironically, these people often like to call themselves "liberals." They are in fact the very opposite--intolerant, authoritarians who have contempt for the Constitution and like to use the federal government to push other people around. It is those who today are often mislabeled as "conservatives" who are the true liberals, in the classic sense of the term.

    Leftists show their disdain for most things American by running this country down every chance they get, while leading cheers for its enemies. Andy McCarthy discusses how their loathing of this country gives them common cause with Islamists in a very good book, "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America."

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Actually there is EVERY reasons to believe most of the Soviet nuclear weapons would not have detonated.

    The first generation of Polaris SLBMs were deployed by the U.S. around this time frame.

    Years later, the U.S. found out that fully SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of their warheads WOULD NOT detonate (see "The Cold War At Sea" by Kit Bonner). The Polaris warheads and the Soviet IRBM warheads were the same generation of weapons. There is no reason to believe the Soviet weapons would have worked better than the American ones.

    At any rate, I was doubting that the Soviets could've successfully launched the majority of missiles before U.S. nuclear warheads starting impacting on their launch sites.
    This is not the topic of this thread, but your claims about the Cuban Crisis are wildly inaccurate. The U.S. never had any plans to strike either the missile sites or any other targets in Cuba with nuclear weapons. In fact the transcripts of meetings show President Kennedy asking about the possibility a U.S. attack might accidentally detonate one of the Soviets' nuclear weapons (neither he nor anyone else in the U.S. knew whether they had been brought to the missile sites.) Kennedy was concerned about how many Soviets or Cubans might be killed if one of those weapons were to go off in Cuba.

    The plan was to attack the sites with fighter-bombers--sixteen F-100's were tasked with destroying one site--carrying conventional bombs. There were also rough plans to follow those attacks up with a full-out invasion of Cuba by six Army divisions, each landing at an assigned place. This invasion force would have had the help of 5,700 Marines Kennedy had already sent to reinforce Guantanamo.

    But all we know now makes clear that Kennedy and his military advisers expected that if large-scale fighting broke out, it was likely to break out first not in Cuba, but in Berlin. They knew it would have been foolish for the Soviets to try to wage war in Cuba, so far from their territory and so close to ours. And they knew that the relative weakness of the Soviets' conventional forces in Cuba would have forced them, before long, either to launch the nuclear weapons they had brought there or see them destroyed. In Berlin, though, they would have had a big advantage in conventional forces--particularly armor--and a far shorter supply line.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And what do you mean by that. Define for me a legal war, and an illegal war, lol.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I know that everything that Iran says is a lie, and that everything the US says is the truth, no need to roll your eyes at me Mr.
    No, it is just that enriching nuclear material themselves makes absolutely no sense at all for non-military purposes makes absolutely no sense for Iran.

    1) They have no source of nuclear material in Iran so they would importing this material to run nuclear generators.. going from energy independence to dependence.

    2) Developing and building your own nuclear refinery is orders of magnitude more costly than buying reactor grade nuclear material from an established refinery.

    3) Nuclear power would be far more expensive that oil generators that they would run essentially for free.

    Again, there is absolutely no reason for Iran to refine it's own nuclear material unless it is to refine weapons grade material that they can't buy on the world market.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I take the word "failed," as you use it, to mean my observation does not accord with yours. Evidently it irks you that anyone would dare not to appreciate your preternatural wisdom.

    I repeat--most of the ignorant hicks I have had to be around, in graduate school and elsewhere, have been leftists. Mark Levin once said something to the effect that leftism is the philosophy of the stupid, and I tend to agree with him. Ironically, these people often like to call themselves "liberals." They are in fact the very opposite--intolerant, authoritarians who have contempt for the Constitution and like to use the federal government to push other people around. It is those who today are often mislabeled as "conservatives" who are the true liberals, in the classic sense of the term.

    Leftists show their disdain for most things American by running this country down every chance they get, while leading cheers for its enemies. Andy McCarthy discusses how their loathing of this country gives them common cause with Islamists in a very good book, "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America."
    I think I'm through with you. Anybody that would say that all republican conservatives are stupid, or anybody that says that all liberals are stupid has issues because neither is true.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, it is just that enriching nuclear material themselves makes absolutely no sense at all for non-military purposes makes absolutely no sense for Iran.

    1) They have no source of nuclear material in Iran so they would importing this material to run nuclear generators.. going from energy independence to dependence.

    2) Developing and building your own nuclear refinery is orders of magnitude more costly than buying reactor grade nuclear material from an established refinery.

    3) Nuclear power would be far more expensive that oil generators that they would run essentially for free.

    Again, there is absolutely no reason for Iran to refine it's own nuclear material unless it is to refine weapons grade material that they can't buy on the world market.
    You need to go back to school and learn how to form sentences.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I take the word "failed," as you use it, to mean my observation does not accord with yours. Evidently it irks you that anyone would dare not to appreciate your preternatural wisdom.

    I repeat--most of the ignorant hicks I have had to be around, in graduate school and elsewhere, have been leftists. Mark Levin once said something to the effect that leftism is the philosophy of the stupid, and I tend to agree with him. Ironically, these people often like to call themselves "liberals." They are in fact the very opposite--intolerant, authoritarians who have contempt for the Constitution and like to use the federal government to push other people around. It is those who today are often mislabeled as "conservatives" who are the true liberals, in the classic sense of the term.
    You didn't mention what Mark Levin has said about the Republican party.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Nope- Not getting drawn into a schlong contest
    I knew that would stump you.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You didn't mention what Mark Levin has said about the Republican party.
    How ironic, since you speak of irony .
    OMG, Mark Levin.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You need to go back to school and learn how to form sentences.
    Other than the mangled sentence, do you disagree with my assertion that Iran's nuclear program makes absolutely no sense at all as a non-military project? It has no practical value as a public works project to justify the massive expense. The only way Iran's nuclear program makes any logical sense is as a path to nuclear weapons.
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