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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why should iran be denied the ability to counter the presence of israeli nuclear arms?
    Because they don't threaten it, exactly the same way as British nukes do not threaten Iran.
    As I pointed to you out in a previous post you've apparently ignored - Israel has had no hostility towards Iran, it is Iran that got up one morning and decided that Israel is an enemy and that it must be destroyed, not the other way around. Please do memorize it so I wouldn't have to say it again in a few months when we'll have the same argument again.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and you have just established the legitimacy of iran's rationale for developing its own nuclear weapons
    Not really, no.
    After all Iran's desire for the nuke predates the assassination of its nuclear scientists.
    So no, that's not a valid argument there bubba, try another one. Perhaps the one with "Iran never initiated a war in its entire history". That was a good one.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    What are you talking about? Who said Iran has a nuclear weapon, and why are you responding to me about it?
    I'm sorry, you addressed me in post 195, I thought that invited a response. The NPT to witch you referred is for nuclear weapons, so how is it that Iran is in violation??
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Because they don't threaten it, exactly the same way as British nukes do not threaten Iran.
    As I pointed to you out in a previous post you've apparently ignored - Israel has had no hostility towards Iran, it is Iran that got up one morning and decided that Israel is an enemy and that it must be destroyed, not the other way around. Please do memorize it so I wouldn't have to say it again in a few months when we'll have the same argument again.
    you need to read post 194 - you objected to the source used - which post identified the many threats of attack presented by israeli government officials against the nation of iran
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Not really, no.
    After all Iran's desire for the nuke predates the assassination of its nuclear scientists.
    So no, that's not a valid argument there bubba, try another one. Perhaps the one with "Iran never initiated a war in its entire history". That was a good one.
    over the past 100 years
    compare that of iran versus that of israel
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you need to read post 194 - you objected to the source used - which post identified the many threats of attack presented by israeli government officials against the nation of iran
    No, I haven't merely 'objected to the source', I have objected to your claim that this opinion piece contradicts the absolute fact that Iran is the one that initiated the hostilities.
    I'm afraid that history is not open for interpretations bubba.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and i am pointing out that this organization was created only as a result of israel's over-reaching actions, as has been expressed by a former israeli prime minister
    If you honestly intend to argue that, then, dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Hezbollah well predates 2004.

    Hell, they taught AQ the car-bombing tactics that they later used in Pakistan

    Hezbollah was created out of (and, this is funny) originally anti-Palestianian Shia groups in Lebanon who came together under the support banner of the IRGC, who then re-directed them against Israel in support of Qods. They were a major player in the early 80s. Who did you think it was that bombed the Marine Barracks? The Malaysians?

    if israel truly wanted a nuclear free iran it should sign the NPT and relinquish its nuclear arms. it would remain adequately defended by the USA in the event of a nuclear attack
    Oh, you mean just like we guaranteed Ukraine that no one would screw them over if they gave up their nukes?

    Israel was founded to make sure that Jews never came to place their lives in others' hands again. Not only is there no way they are going to accept our (worthless) pretty-promise that we will somehow magically defend them from a nuclear attack, they shouldn't.

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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    over the past 100 years
    compare that of iran versus that of israel
    Haha, bullseye isn't it?
    Iran has engaged in wars through proxy, through Hezbollah, engaged in terrorism through proxy.
    So what difference does that make?
    Now Israel? Israel never initiated a single damned war. Sure it may have attacked first at some of the events, but it didn't initiate the aggression.
    Never ever ever ever.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    If you're not promoting the Iranian agenda then cease arguing in favor of allowing Iran to gain nuclear capabilities because that's all you've been doing so far. When you try to legitimize the Iranians having these capabilities you are doing exactly that.
    Iran should never be and will never be allowed to gain these capabilities.
    Ok my man, after numerous posts pointing out that MY PREFERENCE IS THAT NOBODY have nuclear weapons, you must stop falsely accusing me of wanting Iran to develop nuclear capabilities (other then of civilian/commercial nature) it is my preference that Iran does not develop one, and my further wish that the rest of the nuclear powers eliminate their stockpiles, or I will stop responding to you, which would probably be your objective given the uncomfortably hypocritical view you have of nuclear weapons possession.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If you honestly intend to argue that, then, dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Hezbollah well predates 2004.

    Hell, they taught AQ the car-bombing tactics that they later used in Pakistan

    Hezbollah was created out of (and, this is funny) originally anti-Palestianian Shia groups in Lebanon who came together under the support banner of the IRGC, who then re-directed them against Israel in support of Qods. They were a major player in the early 80s. Who did you think it was that bombed the Marine Barracks? The Malaysians?



    Oh, you mean just like we guaranteed Ukraine that no one would screw them over if they gave up their nukes?

    Israel was founded to make sure that Jews never came to place their lives in others' hands again. Not only is there no way they are going to accept our (worthless) pretty-promise that we will somehow magically defend them from a nuclear attack, they shouldn't.
    here is what was presented by a former prime minister of israel:
    In 2006, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak stated, "When we entered Lebanon ... there was no Hezbollah. We were accepted with perfumed rice and flowers by the Shia in the south. It was our presence there that created Hezbollah".[43]
    Hezbollah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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