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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Where have I argued that Iran should be ALLOWED to hold nuclear weapons???? I have been clear that my preference would be for nobody to have them, has that escaped you?
    By arguing that if it's legitimate for the nations that currently hold nuclear capabilities to hold these capabilities, then it is also legitimate for Iran to hold them, you are arguing for Iran holding nuclear capabilities whether you are aware of it or not.

    I have asked the question to several folk now, why it is that they seem perfectly content with the US, who has used them in the past, should be the country deciding who else should have them. Or why it's ok for Pakistan and Israel to have them?
    No matter what you believe the legitimacy of some nations who currently hold nuclear capabilities to be holding these capabilities is - it wouldn't be a determining factor in whether or not to allow another nation, a rogue and violent one that is waging terrorism through proxies and is the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet, to hold the same capabilities.
    That I'm afraid is something that you deliberately fail to understand.

    There's no darker agenda then a war room full of old fat guys smoking cigars and drinking port while they go over a map of Japan deciding which two entire cities they are going to nuke!!!!!!
    And again you are comparing the US from over 70 years ago, during WWII, to present time.
    Good for you.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Where in the **** did I even mention Israel and how does that even relate to the fact of the nicest country in the world calling the state your buddy Obama is making nice with?

    Talk about deliberate off topic responses...


    BTW you didn't mention Bush.....
    In the interest of accusing Iran of plotting assassinations, Israel has both plotted, and executed their assassinations in Iran, a bit more serious charge. And why would you call Obama, necessarily my buddy, I don't even know him, as a matter of fact, I've never met him either. Hardly the definition of a buddy. Additionally, I responded to an accusation by you in another thread with a list of 14 serious criticisms of Obama/Obama administration policies, to arrest your false claims.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    By arguing that if it's legitimate for the nations that currently hold nuclear capabilities to hold these capabilities, then it is also legitimate for Iran to hold them, you are arguing for Iran holding nuclear capabilities whether you are aware of it or not.



    No matter what you believe the legitimacy of some nations who currently hold nuclear capabilities to be holding these capabilities is - it wouldn't be a determining factor in whether or not to allow another nation, a rogue and violent one that is waging terrorism through proxies and is the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet, to hold the same capabilities.
    That I'm afraid is something that you deliberately fail to understand.



    And again you are comparing the US from over 70 years ago, during WWII, to present time.
    Good for you.
    Sorry, I have never argued that its "legitimate" for Iran to have nuclear weapons. I have, once again, asked yourself and others, why you guys think its perfectly fine for some countries to have them, and not others?? And still have no satisfactory reason.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    In the interest of accusing Iran of plotting assassinations, Israel has both plotted, and executed their assassinations in Iran, a bit more serious charge.
    Even if true taking out those who are aiding the Iranian regime to gain nuclear capabilities is extremely legitimate.
    You don't seem to understand the nature of the Iranian government.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Just like Montecresto you're sticking to the claims of public figures to dictate your reality bubba.
    This has nothing to do with the fact that Hezbollah is a terror organization that is funded, trained and armed exclusively by Iran, that it is practically an Iranian organization.
    and i am pointing out that this organization was created only as a result of israel's over-reaching actions, as has been expressed by a former israeli prime minister
    the biggest barrier to the elimination of iran's nuclear development program is the existence of the israeli nuclear arsenal
    israel refuses to sign the international non-proliferation treaty but still insists on expressing its opposition to the development of nuclear weapons by iran
    if israel truly wanted a nuclear free iran it should sign the NPT and relinquish its nuclear arms. it would remain adequately defended by the USA in the event of a nuclear attack
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry, I have never argued that its "legitimate" for Iran to have nuclear weapons. I have, once again, asked yourself and others, why you guys think its perfectly fine for some countries to have them, and not others?? And still have no satisfactory reason.
    That you do not consider the fact that Iran unlike those other nations is led by an Islamic fundamentalist regime, a regime that is the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet, as a satisfactory reason is all on you mate.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Just like Montecresto you're sticking to the claims of public figures to dictate your reality bubba.
    This has nothing to do with the fact that Hezbollah is a terror organization that is funded, trained and armed exclusively by Iran, that it is practically an Iranian organization.
    Wow! Just WOW that's unbelievable dismissal, like on a grand scale. So you now think the former prime minister of Israel doesn't even know what he's talking about. Wonder if he would be believed if he said that the Iranians were the chief exporters of terrorism in the world?????
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and i am pointing out that this organization was created only as a result of israel's over-reaching actions, as has been expressed by a former israeli prime minister
    Which doesn't make it the truth, nor does it mean anything at all in relation to Hezbollah being an Iranian proxy terror organization.
    If you tried to make a point on the subject... well you clearly haven't.

    the biggest barrier to the elimination of iran's nuclear development program is the existence of the israeli nuclear arsenal
    israel refuses to sign the international non-proliferation treaty but still insists on expressing its opposition to the development of nuclear weapons by iran
    if israel truly wanted a nuclear free iran it should sign the NPT and relinquish its nuclear arms. it would remain adequately defended by the USA in the event of a nuclear attack
    Another non-relating comment.
    Israel wasn't threatening Iran, Iran was threatening Israel.
    Israel didn't have any hostility with Iran before Iran had declared that Israel is the enemy and must be destroyed.
    Hence the argument that it is somehow all Israel's fault, again, is a very ridiculous one.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That you do not consider the fact that Iran unlike those other nations is led by an Islamic fundamentalist regime, a regime that is the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet, as a satisfactory reason is all on you mate.
    Iran uses terrorism in places to advance their agenda not unlike the US, Israel, Russia, Saudi Arabia and so many others do. It would be nice if nobody did, the ideal situation, for me. But pointing out Iran's use of the tactic while excusing our own is dishonest. So far the only country to use the nuclear bomb, and on whole cities, is the US. So stop wringing your hands about something that you think Iran might do one day IF, they get the opportunity.
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    Re: Iran's Khamenei says could accept fair nuclear compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and i am pointing out that this organization was created only as a result of israel's over-reaching actions, as has been expressed by a former israeli prime minister
    the biggest barrier to the elimination of iran's nuclear development program is the existence of the israeli nuclear arsenal
    israel refuses to sign the international non-proliferation treaty but still insists on expressing its opposition to the development of nuclear weapons by iran
    if israel truly wanted a nuclear free iran it should sign the NPT and relinquish its nuclear arms. it would remain adequately defended by the USA in the event of a nuclear attack
    Cause and effect man, it's not profound.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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