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Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

Greetings, F&L. :2wave

The Constitution has not become meaningless! A few have tried to pretend it is, but it's still there as a guide on why and how this country was founded. It's comforting to me to know that Mitch McConnell, Majority Leader in the Senate now, has often let it be known that he believes that the Constitution is a living document, not a rough draft to be changed at someone's whim! :thumbs:

Hi Polgara, the only people I hear expressing that the constitution is meaningless is by way of complaint, that president'S have been behaving as though its a god damn piece of paper, despite what they say.
 
Mornin D. :2wave: Yep.....ever hear of a town called Gornja Maoca?

At the entrance to a mountain village in Bosnia, people are greeted by the Islamic State emblem. It is believed some 150 Bosnians have joined Islamic militants in Syria and Iraq.

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In April, Bosnia introduced jail terms of up to 10 years for citizens who fight or recruit fighters for conflicts abroad.The move was aimed at discouraging young Bosnians, some of whom, particularly from rural areas, have in recent years adhered to the puritanical Wahhabi sect, from going to fight in Syria.

In September, Bosnian police detained 16 people on charges of financing terrorist activities, recruiting and fighting for radical groups in Syria and Iraq, authorities said.....snip~

Read more: A far from welcoming village: Entrance to Bosnian mountain hamlet is branded with Islamic State emblem and homes fly the terrorists' flag as group's influence spreads* | Daily Mail Online
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Thanks,

The Bosnians did choose to involve Islamic extremists in their war during the 1990's. We did not!
 
Two Bosnian immigrants who have resided in Illinois are among six in the U.S. who have been charged with sending money, weapons and other supplies to terrorists oversees, including fighters with the Islamic State group and al-Qaida in Iraq, the U.S. attorney’s office announced Friday. The suspects are identified as Mediha Medy Salkicevic, 34, of Schiller Park, a Chicago suburb; and Jasminka Ramic, 42, of Rockford; Ramiz Zijad Hodzic, 40, his wife Sedina Unkic Hodzic, 35, and Armin Harcevic, 37, who live in St. Louis County, Missouri; and Nihad Rosic, 26, of Utica, New York.

The indictment alleges the conspiracy began no later than May 2013 and that the defendants used social media websites including Facebook to communicate in code. All six people who are charged are natives of Bosnia who were living in the U.S. legally. Three are naturalized citizens; the other three either had refugee or legal resident status, according to the U.S. attorney’s office. All face charges of conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists and with providing material support to terrorists. Rosic and Ramiz Hodzic are also charged with conspiring to kill and maim people in a foreign country......snip~

Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two Residing In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot « CBS Chicago


5 of them are locked up here in the US.....the last is overseas. Yet they don't say where. To top it off.....ISIS flags, were put out on display in Bosnia.
What say ye?



If the charges are true they need to spend a long time under the jail.
 
That is THE question of the decade...

I sure as hell don't know. Here, I am seen as an American, I think American civil rights, fought for them there and fought for them here. I loved America when I lived there, even with a Vietnam war raging...in part because the constitution allowed us that right to throw tear gas back at the National guard.

Then, I had issues about Vietnam, the leadership was not so evil as misguided..

Today I see a concentration camp on US soil and the excuse they aren't in the US so they are not protected by the constitution. I see a trampling of protest even verbal, where the war of words between Americans has stalled a nation into collapse.

I see a war launched 15 years ago to avenge the deaths of 3500 Americans that has no end in sight, a war that was spread to Iraq with the consent of both parties, one of whom denies that now.

I see a proud country with reason to be proud, now destroying itself from within with attacks on other Americans for the fact they are doing the job they were elected to do; I see invented issues to prolong and provoke more war as Obama waves red flags about :amnesty:" at his "enemies". I see a country more concerned with destroying political opponents than the Islamic Radicals who behead and burn to death their enemies...

I see a president waxing about definitions while one war has spread to seven with lost ground where he had warred before and an administration more concerned about the crusades, slavery and what to call the real enemy.

America used to stand for "right" as in they didn't torture, didn't suppress the constitution even when it meant a president was going down for being a crook. America used to mean that the easy way was not the right way, and things like the New York Times publishing the Pentagon papers was so constitutional now **** off!

Today I have no idea what she stands for, am at sea as to what to expect from a president who attacks "Canadian Oil" when the nation is dependent on it, and no idea what to expect when a cop shoots someone or there is evidence of corruption, only that it will NOT be an independent investigator.

America used to be Canada's best friend and the reverse, today I am not sure about that at all and have repeatedly advised my government to remain arms length in all dealings especially the war on terror.

I do know that that beautiful document, that legal work of art called the United States Constitution that I had drilled into me by grey haired, right wing teachers, has become meaningless.
Who is it that you see that war has been launched against? When you think of those pooor widdle innocent victims stashed away at GITMO, which country do we negotiate with? Which country do we seek political reconciliation with? The story that spawns your response has 6 people arrested for supporting terrorist activities around the world. That has you somehow outraged. I find that amazing. The enemy which you feel is treated unfairly just torched a man to death in a cage for all the world to see. Of course...the barbarity is just the next level and thats really all that has people shocked. We ARE talking about an enemy that chants glory to their God while they slowly chop peoples heads in the most painful and gruesome manner. I suppose we should treat them more humanly in return. We should 'negotiate' more. Negotiate with people that have butchered men, women, and children across the planet all in the glorious name of Allah.

Keep your vision of what our country and Constitution are supposed to be like. Those laws and protections are designed for US citizens and are meant to be legal and just. Perfect? Nah...and there is always work to be done. But those legal protections arent intended for foreigners who come into this country that raise funds to support people that rape and butcher 7 year olds in schools in Pakistan. They arent meant for immigrants from Bosnia who **** on this country and try to kill as many people as they can at the Boston marathon. This country like ALL countries are at war with an ugly brutal as **** enemy. To this presidents credit and in spite of his many failings, he works to kick that enemies ass, often alone and without support of either party nor the leaders of a gutless world. SO...to those poooooooor widdle oppressed victims of US justice that were just arrested...I ordered a nice big box of **** you for you to enjoy. You can open it while you are chowing down on your hungry man version of eat **** and die.
 
Thanks,

The Bosnians did choose to involve Islamic extremists in their war during the 1990's. We did not!



No problem D. Yeah I knew they did and your people did not. Kudos to you and yours.
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If the charges are true they need to spend a long time under the jail.

Looks like things got a whole lot difficult for them to stay in this country anymore. Even if they are convicted and then released after time.

Although.....we should strip their US citizenship. Besides the American people letting them know.....their asses are now ours. There will be no forgetting who they chose to side with.
 
If he is successful then I would say it has been a "restoration" of that beautiful legal work of art. Under Obama and the socialists, it is meaningless; they know who you phone, email and can scoop you from home on a verbal report. The president can wage war without so much as mentioning it to congress and make thousands of illegal, with the stroke of his little phallic symbol.

Republicans elected to do their jobs have been silenced, governments shut down all for one man's glory......I never saw any of that in my teachings, even Nixon couldn't do that


Well sort of.
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Not sure I'm following you on that MMC!

Mornin Bro. :mrgreen: Ah it wasn't serious.....although, I am sure you are well aware of anytime Susan Rice flaps those gums about. Now that is serious.....since that failure hasn't had a clue since the late 80's. :shock:
 
I guess it has something to do with our participation in the Bosnian air war in the mid nineties.

Yes, that is what is puzzling.

The USA led NATO campaign helped end the ethnic cleansing carried out from Serbs in Bosnia. On such grounds Bosnians should have been allies to USA just like Dardania is.

So why this sudden backstab to USA I wonder?
 
I'm just saying that with a century or better of history of bombing the hell out of people, your going to have some enemies, and I don't think that's profound!

No but the bombings were carried out in Bosnia against Bosnian enemies the Serbs.
 
Mornin Bro. :mrgreen: Ah it wasn't serious.....although, I am sure you are well aware of anytime Susan Rice flaps those gums about. Now that is serious.....since that failure hasn't had a clue since the late 80's. :shock:

Morning buddy. I didn't figure it was too serious, but I'm still confused how Mrs. Rice is related to Fear's comments, and my comment about his comments?
 
Yes, that is what is puzzling.

The USA led NATO campaign helped end the ethnic cleansing carried out from Serbs in Bosnia. On such grounds Bosnians should have been allies to USA just like Dardania is.

So why this sudden backstab to USA I wonder?

The US led NATO air war in Kosovo did not have UN Security Council support, perhaps that's related, I don't know.
 
Morning buddy. I didn't figure it was too serious, but I'm still confused how Mrs. Rice is related to Fear's comments, and my comment about his comments?

It wasn't.....just trying to get a laugh outtta ya. Tis all. ;)
 
The US led NATO air war in Kosovo did not have UN Security Council support, perhaps that's related, I don't know.

Yes, of course Dardania had the UN Security council support, and the number of the resolution is 1244.

But Dardania aside, these Bosnians are accused of sending money to Turkiye and Saudi Arabia. There is no crime in that much I gather?

The crime is that the ones that they sent money to in Turkiye and Saudi Arabia choose to send the Bosnian money to ISIS terrorists. I am so caught in that Bosnians should have been US allies that I think maybe these Bosnians are victims and did not knew that the money was going to ISIS perhaps?
 
No but the bombings were carried out in Bosnia against Bosnian enemies the Serbs.

Yes, and an estimated 2,500 civilians were killed by NATO forces. Perhaps they're remembering that, I don't know.
 
Yes, of course Dardania had the UN Security council support, and the number of the resolution is 1244.

But Dardania aside, these Bosnians are accused of sending money to Turkiye and Saudi Arabia. There is no crime in that much I gather?

The crime is that the ones that they sent money to in Turkiye and Saudi Arabia choose to send the Bosnian money to ISIS terrorists. I am so caught in that Bosnians should have been US allies that I think maybe these Bosnians are victims and did not knew that the money was going to ISIS perhaps?

The NATO bombing campaign has remained controversial, as it did not gain the approval of the UN Security Council.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War
 
Can you support that claim with references?

The Serbian government and a number of international human rights groups (e.g., Amnesty International) claimed that NATO had carried out war crimes by bombing civilians. In total the number of civilian casualties caused by the NATO bombing stood at 2,500 according to Serb sources,[93][94] while the military and police casualties stood at only 40% of that number at 1,031.[93][94]

Incomplete list of civilian casualties caused by NATO:

Grdelica train bombing
NATO bombing of Albanian refugees near Đakovica
Koriša bombing
NATO bombing of the Radio Television of Serbia headquarters
Lužane bus bombing
Cluster bombing of Niš (Cluster bombs were illegal by 2008, but was legal in 1999.)
US bombing of the People's Republic of China embassy in Belgrade

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Kosovo_War
 
The Serbian government and a number of international human rights groups (e.g., Amnesty International) claimed that NATO had carried out war crimes by bombing civilians. In total the number of civilian casualties caused by the NATO bombing stood at 2,500 according to Serb sources,[93][94] while the military and police casualties stood at only 40% of that number at 1,031.[93][94]

Incomplete list of civilian casualties caused by NATO:

Grdelica train bombing
NATO bombing of Albanian refugees near Đakovica
Koriša bombing
NATO bombing of the Radio Television of Serbia headquarters
Lužane bus bombing
Cluster bombing of Niš (Cluster bombs were illegal by 2008, but was legal in 1999.)
US bombing of the People's Republic of China embassy in Belgrade

War crimes in the Kosovo War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The NATO bombing campaign has remained controversial, as it did not gain the approval of the UN Security Council.

Kosovo War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Weak-o-pedia is not a serious source to refer to in these matters. Secondly, it takes 5 permanent members to approve a resolution for it to pass through. The resolution number is 1244 so it was passed through.

Thirdly, the question in post 41 is for Bosnia, not Dardania.
 
Weak-o-pedia is not a serious source to refer to in these matters. Secondly, it takes 5 permanent members to approve a resolution for it to pass through. The resolution number is 1244 so it was passed through.

Thirdly, the question in post 41 is for Bosnia, not Dardania.



I would Disagree D.....all those references are validated on the bottom of the page. Takes you straight to whatever links and sources. ;)
 
I would Disagree D.....all those references are validated on the bottom of the page. Takes you straight to whatever links and sources. ;)

I do not do Weaky the honors. Plus see the third raised point.
 
Weak-o-pedia is not a serious source to refer to in these matters. Secondly, it takes 5 permanent members to approve a resolution for it to pass through. The resolution number is 1244 so it was passed through.

Thirdly, the question in post 41 is for Bosnia, not Dardania.

This is NATO's acknowledged numbers.

General Joseph W. Ralston, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in September that "Despite the weight of bombs dropped, Serbian civilian casualties were amazingly light, estimated at less than 1,500 dead."

Do you think with the dropping of 23,000 bombs, your not going to kill innocent civilians? And, are you denying the bombing of the Chinese embassy, or the civilian train that was bombed or the television station that was bombed, or the bus that was bombed?????

http://m.hrw.org/reports/2000/nato/Natbm200-01.htm
 
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