Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 71

Thread: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

  1. #21
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, maybe next time around people can talk to them while they are out massacring people. See how that works out.
    Why do you think I'm defending anything that the Bosnians were doing. I'm just pointing out that when we attempt to do something like we did there, your going to hurt innocent people in the process, and that usually makes you enemies. The difference in then and now, is that then had merit, whereas none of the ME policy in the past dozen years has any.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  2. #22
    Left the building
    Fearandloathing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Vancouver, Canada Dual citizen
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:33 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,087

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, MMC.

    What is it exactly that America stands for these days? Every federal blunder creates more cynicism about our government, not only here, but around the rest of the globe. We seem to have turned into Santa Claus with a gun, except where terrorists are concerned. Does anyone trust our meddling? The ME factions have been killing each other for 1300 years, all in the name of religion. Now some box has been opened, and it includes Western countries, too? What arrogance! Most of us are not interested, thank you!

    That is THE question of the decade...

    I sure as hell don't know. Here, I am seen as an American, I think American civil rights, fought for them there and fought for them here. I loved America when I lived there, even with a Vietnam war raging...in part because the constitution allowed us that right to throw tear gas back at the National guard.

    Then, I had issues about Vietnam, the leadership was not so evil as misguided..

    Today I see a concentration camp on US soil and the excuse they aren't in the US so they are not protected by the constitution. I see a trampling of protest even verbal, where the war of words between Americans has stalled a nation into collapse.

    I see a war launched 15 years ago to avenge the deaths of 3500 Americans that has no end in sight, a war that was spread to Iraq with the consent of both parties, one of whom denies that now.

    I see a proud country with reason to be proud, now destroying itself from within with attacks on other Americans for the fact they are doing the job they were elected to do; I see invented issues to prolong and provoke more war as Obama waves red flags about :amnesty:" at his "enemies". I see a country more concerned with destroying political opponents than the Islamic Radicals who behead and burn to death their enemies...

    I see a president waxing about definitions while one war has spread to seven with lost ground where he had warred before and an administration more concerned about the crusades, slavery and what to call the real enemy.

    America used to stand for "right" as in they didn't torture, didn't suppress the constitution even when it meant a president was going down for being a crook. America used to mean that the easy way was not the right way, and things like the New York Times publishing the Pentagon papers was so constitutional now **** off!

    Today I have no idea what she stands for, am at sea as to what to expect from a president who attacks "Canadian Oil" when the nation is dependent on it, and no idea what to expect when a cop shoots someone or there is evidence of corruption, only that it will NOT be an independent investigator.

    America used to be Canada's best friend and the reverse, today I am not sure about that at all and have repeatedly advised my government to remain arms length in all dealings especially the war on terror.

    I do know that that beautiful document, that legal work of art called the United States Constitution that I had drilled into me by grey haired, right wing teachers, has become meaningless.
    ....."actually, throughout my life my two greatest assets have been my mental stability and being, like, really smart"

  3. #23
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Wow! That all sounds so anti-American!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  4. #24
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,454

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    That is THE question of the decade...

    I sure as hell don't know. Here, I am seen as an American, I think American civil rights, fought for them there and fought for them here. I loved America when I lived there, even with a Vietnam war raging...in part because the constitution allowed us that right to throw tear gas back at the National guard.

    Then, I had issues about Vietnam, the leadership was not so evil as misguided..

    Today I see a concentration camp on US soil and the excuse they aren't in the US so they are not protected by the constitution. I see a trampling of protest even verbal, where the war of words between Americans has stalled a nation into collapse.

    I see a war launched 15 years ago to avenge the deaths of 3500 Americans that has no end in sight, a war that was spread to Iraq with the consent of both parties, one of whom denies that now.

    I see a proud country with reason to be proud, now destroying itself from within with attacks on other Americans for the fact they are doing the job they were elected to do; I see invented issues to prolong and provoke more war as Obama waves red flags about :amnesty:" at his "enemies". I see a country more concerned with destroying political opponents than the Islamic Radicals who behead and burn to death their enemies...

    I see a president waxing about definitions while one war has spread to seven with lost ground where he had warred before and an administration more concerned about the crusades, slavery and what to call the real enemy.

    America used to stand for "right" as in they didn't torture, didn't suppress the constitution even when it meant a president was going down for being a crook. America used to mean that the easy way was not the right way, and things like the New York Times publishing the Pentagon papers was so constitutional now **** off!

    Today I have no idea what she stands for, am at sea as to what to expect from a president who attacks "Canadian Oil" when the nation is dependent on it, and no idea what to expect when a cop shoots someone or there is evidence of corruption, only that it will NOT be an independent investigator.

    America used to be Canada's best friend and the reverse, today I am not sure about that at all and have repeatedly advised my government to remain arms length in all dealings especially the war on terror.

    I do know that that beautiful document, that legal work of art called the United States Constitution that I had drilled into me by grey haired, right wing teachers, has become meaningless.
    Greetings, F&L. :2wave

    The Constitution has not become meaningless! A few have tried to pretend it is, but it's still there as a guide on why and how this country was founded. It's comforting to me to know that Mitch McConnell, Majority Leader in the Senate now, has often let it be known that he believes that the Constitution is a living document, not a rough draft to be changed at someone's whim!

  5. #25
    Left the building
    Fearandloathing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Vancouver, Canada Dual citizen
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:33 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,087

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, F&L. :2wave

    The Constitution has not become meaningless! A few have tried to pretend it is, but it's still there as a guide on why and how this country was founded. It's comforting to me to know that Mitch McConnell, Majority Leader in the Senate now, has often let it be known that he believes that the Constitution is a living document, not a rough draft to be changed at someone's whim!
    If he is successful then I would say it has been a "restoration" of that beautiful legal work of art. Under Obama and the socialists, it is meaningless; they know who you phone, email and can scoop you from home on a verbal report. The president can wage war without so much as mentioning it to congress and make thousands of illegal, with the stroke of his little phallic symbol.

    Republicans elected to do their jobs have been silenced, governments shut down all for one man's glory......I never saw any of that in my teachings, even Nixon couldn't do that
    ....."actually, throughout my life my two greatest assets have been my mental stability and being, like, really smart"

  6. #26
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, F&L. :2wave

    The Constitution has not become meaningless! A few have tried to pretend it is, but it's still there as a guide on why and how this country was founded. It's comforting to me to know that Mitch McConnell, Majority Leader in the Senate now, has often let it be known that he believes that the Constitution is a living document, not a rough draft to be changed at someone's whim!
    Hi Polgara, the only people I hear expressing that the constitution is meaningless is by way of complaint, that president'S have been behaving as though its a god damn piece of paper, despite what they say.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  7. #27
    Sage
    DDD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Republic of Dardania
    Last Seen
    05-06-17 @ 06:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,173

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin D. Yep.....ever hear of a town called Gornja Maoca?

    At the entrance to a mountain village in Bosnia, people are greeted by the Islamic State emblem. It is believed some 150 Bosnians have joined Islamic militants in Syria and Iraq.



    In April, Bosnia introduced jail terms of up to 10 years for citizens who fight or recruit fighters for conflicts abroad.The move was aimed at discouraging young Bosnians, some of whom, particularly from rural areas, have in recent years adhered to the puritanical Wahhabi sect, from going to fight in Syria.

    In September, Bosnian police detained 16 people on charges of financing terrorist activities, recruiting and fighting for radical groups in Syria and Iraq, authorities said.....snip~

    Read more: A far from welcoming village: Entrance to Bosnian mountain hamlet is branded with Islamic State emblem and homes fly the terrorists' flag as group's influence spreads* | Daily Mail Online
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
    Thanks,

    The Bosnians did choose to involve Islamic extremists in their war during the 1990's. We did not!
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
    The Republic of Dardania is the proper name for: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...ification.html

  8. #28
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,869
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Two Bosnian immigrants who have resided in Illinois are among six in the U.S. who have been charged with sending money, weapons and other supplies to terrorists oversees, including fighters with the Islamic State group and al-Qaida in Iraq, the U.S. attorney’s office announced Friday. The suspects are identified as Mediha Medy Salkicevic, 34, of Schiller Park, a Chicago suburb; and Jasminka Ramic, 42, of Rockford; Ramiz Zijad Hodzic, 40, his wife Sedina Unkic Hodzic, 35, and Armin Harcevic, 37, who live in St. Louis County, Missouri; and Nihad Rosic, 26, of Utica, New York.

    The indictment alleges the conspiracy began no later than May 2013 and that the defendants used social media websites including Facebook to communicate in code. All six people who are charged are natives of Bosnia who were living in the U.S. legally. Three are naturalized citizens; the other three either had refugee or legal resident status, according to the U.S. attorney’s office. All face charges of conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists and with providing material support to terrorists. Rosic and Ramiz Hodzic are also charged with conspiring to kill and maim people in a foreign country......snip~

    Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two Residing In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot « CBS Chicago


    5 of them are locked up here in the US.....the last is overseas. Yet they don't say where. To top it off.....ISIS flags, were put out on display in Bosnia.
    What say ye?


    If the charges are true they need to spend a long time under the jail.

  9. #29
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:55 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    55,071

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    That is THE question of the decade...

    I sure as hell don't know. Here, I am seen as an American, I think American civil rights, fought for them there and fought for them here. I loved America when I lived there, even with a Vietnam war raging...in part because the constitution allowed us that right to throw tear gas back at the National guard.

    Then, I had issues about Vietnam, the leadership was not so evil as misguided..

    Today I see a concentration camp on US soil and the excuse they aren't in the US so they are not protected by the constitution. I see a trampling of protest even verbal, where the war of words between Americans has stalled a nation into collapse.

    I see a war launched 15 years ago to avenge the deaths of 3500 Americans that has no end in sight, a war that was spread to Iraq with the consent of both parties, one of whom denies that now.

    I see a proud country with reason to be proud, now destroying itself from within with attacks on other Americans for the fact they are doing the job they were elected to do; I see invented issues to prolong and provoke more war as Obama waves red flags about :amnesty:" at his "enemies". I see a country more concerned with destroying political opponents than the Islamic Radicals who behead and burn to death their enemies...

    I see a president waxing about definitions while one war has spread to seven with lost ground where he had warred before and an administration more concerned about the crusades, slavery and what to call the real enemy.

    America used to stand for "right" as in they didn't torture, didn't suppress the constitution even when it meant a president was going down for being a crook. America used to mean that the easy way was not the right way, and things like the New York Times publishing the Pentagon papers was so constitutional now **** off!

    Today I have no idea what she stands for, am at sea as to what to expect from a president who attacks "Canadian Oil" when the nation is dependent on it, and no idea what to expect when a cop shoots someone or there is evidence of corruption, only that it will NOT be an independent investigator.

    America used to be Canada's best friend and the reverse, today I am not sure about that at all and have repeatedly advised my government to remain arms length in all dealings especially the war on terror.

    I do know that that beautiful document, that legal work of art called the United States Constitution that I had drilled into me by grey haired, right wing teachers, has become meaningless.
    Who is it that you see that war has been launched against? When you think of those pooor widdle innocent victims stashed away at GITMO, which country do we negotiate with? Which country do we seek political reconciliation with? The story that spawns your response has 6 people arrested for supporting terrorist activities around the world. That has you somehow outraged. I find that amazing. The enemy which you feel is treated unfairly just torched a man to death in a cage for all the world to see. Of course...the barbarity is just the next level and thats really all that has people shocked. We ARE talking about an enemy that chants glory to their God while they slowly chop peoples heads in the most painful and gruesome manner. I suppose we should treat them more humanly in return. We should 'negotiate' more. Negotiate with people that have butchered men, women, and children across the planet all in the glorious name of Allah.

    Keep your vision of what our country and Constitution are supposed to be like. Those laws and protections are designed for US citizens and are meant to be legal and just. Perfect? Nah...and there is always work to be done. But those legal protections arent intended for foreigners who come into this country that raise funds to support people that rape and butcher 7 year olds in schools in Pakistan. They arent meant for immigrants from Bosnia who **** on this country and try to kill as many people as they can at the Boston marathon. This country like ALL countries are at war with an ugly brutal as **** enemy. To this presidents credit and in spite of his many failings, he works to kick that enemies ass, often alone and without support of either party nor the leaders of a gutless world. SO...to those poooooooor widdle oppressed victims of US justice that were just arrested...I ordered a nice big box of **** you for you to enjoy. You can open it while you are chowing down on your hungry man version of eat **** and die.

  10. #30
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Feds Charge Six Bosnians, Including Two In Illinois, In Alleged Terror Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Thanks,

    The Bosnians did choose to involve Islamic extremists in their war during the 1990's. We did not!


    No problem D. Yeah I knew they did and your people did not. Kudos to you and yours.

Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •