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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    FDR was a democrat as well, and until his economic war, and other provocations, Japan was no threat to us either. I wonder who would pretend that democrats haven't deceived Americans into supporting wars of choice before.
    Our "economic war" against Japan was in response to its invasion of Manchuria. It was absolutely justified.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean because American voters are predictable enough that every eight years they pass the WH to the opposite party?
    No I mean because those same voters just put the most significant republican majority into national govt in what 100 years?
    In congress, and in the governorships.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im saying theres no way to demonstrate your claims to the forum. All we can do is take you at your word.

    Now do you think dems will vote for her despite the fact that she lied to get us into a war?
    Tell me USC, you've seen enough of my posting to understand my position, do you think I wouldn't have been bitching about Obama going into Libya.

    As to Hillary, yes, I think they will, as certainly as republicans rewarded Bush's lies on Iraq with a second term.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I see, so your arguing that SA can't take care of the Islamic State? I'll argue that they don't want to.
    The Sauds are very worried about ISIS in their own country right now. Its a powder keg, being the home of wahabism. They aren't going to throw a match. Frankly Id be surprised if ISIS isn't there in some capacity right now.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, most likely Americans will pitch the WH back to the republicans. And eight years latter it will be pitched back to the democrats out of the same desperation. Only maybe will Americans realise that NEITHER party is delivering the goods and form a new, powerful third party and make the ass and the elephant set one out, OMG, how that would get their attention. But its a matter of whether or not Americans stop paying attention just long enough to look up and vote in November, or whether they actually begin to pay attention all along, and start putting America ahead of their party. But I have very small hope in that. If I had to bet America will continue to place a party in the WH only to become disgusted in the end and then put the other party back in, only to become disgusted in the end, and then................in reciprocating fashion.
    Although I have no problem with more competitive parties and think perhaps it will make people more politically active, I can understand the view that changing 2 major parties for 5+ smaller parties with similar drawbacks and the inability to win the presidency might be unattractive.
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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by lesson View Post
    Hilary had her hands tied!!!! Really can see the truth if you read what is not said in that article.
    What?


    Ah, wait.

    Obama inherited this mess and now Hillary had her hands tied.

    I am certain and I will make a large, huge in fact, issue of this in the next election so I would ask that you provide documentation as to who and how she was in bondage in the service of Obama

    It would be essential for the American people to know the weakness of character for someone to be subservient in a cabinet position; it clearly suggests she could be bound if not gagged should she ever somehow become president.


    Weakness like that becomes cowardice if it isn't already and coupled with her demonstrated incompetence and penchant for dishonesty she is clearly ill suited to be a meter maid let alone in high office of any kind
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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course you're going to defend Reagan on that, just like you've defended Bush's notion that Saddam Hussein could be removed, a puppet government installed, a military trained to defend themselves and leave a shinning example of democracy, right there in the middle of the ME, haha.....hahahaha.
    We left Iraq before it was ready to stand on its own two feet. We should have stayed much longer. Decades longer-and out Potus, and the one before him should have made the case for that.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Good reason to destablilize it more ....

    I love the rational of the Obama apologists....forgetting that he claims to be making things better....like how Arab Spring was going to bring peace, prosperity and utopia

    Every damn thing he fails at you people cite history to make a case that he is at best no better than the worst of George Bush and every president to come before
    This is how O-pologists do it. Take credit only for things that benefit them politically, blame away all its failings.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Reductio ad absurdum amirite?
    You know ahead of time someone is going to call you out for using Arabic

    Bonum Factis and all that
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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You missed the point-that the blunder about saying we were ending it when we were not is what I was referring to.
    Ah yes, like red lines: Obama and

    We will stay the course: Bush

    I agree.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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