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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course you're going to defend Reagan on that, just like you've defended Bush's notion that Saddam Hussein could be removed, a puppet government installed, a military trained to defend themselves and leave a shinning example of democracy, right there in the middle of the ME, haha.....hahahaha.
    No, there's no 'of course' in there. I call them as I see them.

    Trying to lay the blame solely on Bush for Iraq, ignoring all the votes and support in congress to proceed on that course, is only looking at the 1/2 of the ledger that supports your perspective. Not to worry though. That happens to everyone on occasion.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok.. The country was still destabilized before the US even got involved...


    No. I never said that Democrats arent war hawks. I simply said you look at just about every US intervention in the past 20 years and you will see Republicans love it.



    Nope. From my post you quoted: "I was against Obama bombing Libya in the first place. But this is a clear hack show. On one end you have Republicans to get involved in Ukraine, get involved in Syria, etc. but when it came to Libya (in which many in the GOP vocally supported) they are suddenly against it. What happened? Did the GOP randomly become the anti-hawk, anti-interventionist party? Or were they just the party that is against anything Obama does? I think this clearly shows the hypocrisy and the hack show this has become."
    Good reason to destablilize it more ....

    I love the rational of the Obama apologists....forgetting that he claims to be making things better....like how Arab Spring was going to bring peace, prosperity and utopia

    Every damn thing he fails at you people cite history to make a case that he is at best no better than the worst of George Bush and every president to come before
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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but your non-sequitur on Japan is fiction and ignores Japan's creation of their Sphere of Influence.
    So then start a thread and I'll respond to your assertion that Japan's "sphere of influence" was going to approach US real estate.
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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    And Obama will win back the House and take the Senate in 2014






    As an Oracle you suck


    Who said this? It certainly wasn't me.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by lesson View Post
    Hilary had her hands tied!!!! Really can see the truth if you read what is not said in that article.
    Hillary had her hands tied into pushing a lie? Sounds like a poor excuse for a presidential candidate to me.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The weakness of this president's response also has a lot to do with making them look like winners. An average of seven airstrikes a day is not going to accomplish much--and this lack of seriousness by President Limpwrist makes Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Qatar even less willing to stick their necks out. They were only making a few pinprick air attacks here and there to begin with, and even then only against ISIS, and not the Al Qaeda affiliates in Syria that they side with.

    Jordan is only doing as much as it is the past few days because of the disclosure of the gruesome murder of its pilot. But its situation is too precarious to allow it to lead the charge for very long. A good part of Jordan's population sympathizes with the jihadists, and the influx of refugees has made it harder for King Abdullah to govern. Worse, thousands of Jordanians have gone into Syria to fight with the jihadists, and some of them are sure to return to operate inside Jordan.

    The U.S. cannot lead this fight from behind, and this sorry excuse for a president is endangering our national security by trying. A half-hearted effort that lets these people continue to have a safe haven is asking for another attack on U.S. soil, possibly even worse than 9/11.

    Since Obama has come to office I have seen general increase inn the number of posts complaining that America does all the heavy lifting and gets no help in war.

    I wonder why?

    Let's review Obama's warring. Start with Libya. Bombing runs to aid an abet the enemy of an established power, one of the more stable countries in the region. It was waged we were told then that Arab Spring was the answer to peace and stability in the middle east, he proved it by that assassination that was really a spontaneous demonstration and to help these allegedly pro-democracy Arabs Obama is so wet about. France, Canada, Britain and a few others send fighters, bombers, refueling tankers, men and equipment....at a cost of millions each, we place soldiers lives at risk.

    Then there were his victory laps where he used his favorite word even more, "I" as "I saved Libya"........and people in other countries, including mine thought "what a prick"

    Now we find out it was Hillary's version of weapons of mass destruction.

    Yeah, we're ****ing eager to send our sons into battle for America...eager as ****
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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean to say that if I wasn't bitching about it at DP, I wasn't bitching about it! What an argument. As to Hillary, I would never have voted for her, and seriously hope she doesn't even run. I have said on numerous occasions here, no more Clintons and no more Bush's. If Americans put either of them back in the WH, I may have to reconsider the aim of my criticisms.
    Im saying theres no way to demonstrate your claims to the forum. All we can do is take you at your word.

    Now do you think dems will vote for her despite the fact that she lied to get us into a war?

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, there's no 'of course' in there. I call them as I see them.

    Trying to lay the blame solely on Bush for Iraq, ignoring all the votes and support in congress to proceed on that course, is only looking at the 1/2 of the ledger that supports your perspective. Not to worry though. That happens to everyone on occasion.
    Oh, he had near total democratic support for his folly, and he framed his ambition in such tough talking patriotism that those democrats that were uneasy about it were timid to oppose, and some have subsequently said so. Not that that gives them any pass in my book.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    For Pete's sake! Do you actually pay attention to my posts that you quote? What makes you think that I would contribute to the installation of another Bush or Clinton in the WH?????
    Read my post again-I wasn't referring to you specifically.

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    Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wait a minute, which part of that didn't you like? That we might end our PD program, or that we didn't?
    You missed the point-that the blunder about saying we were ending it when we were not is what I was referring to.

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