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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohhh now I see where this is going. This investigation that has found nothing in the past years, are now turning the page and instead not the attack itself, but now reasons for bombing Libya. Funny how they moved the goalposts. I guess this is the first time that Republicans are against dropping bombs on a country...
    Yes, because as everyone can see, Obamas foreign policy decisions concerning Lyibia have been such a resounding success.

    Well, his foreign policy decisions concerning everyone and everything have been a unmitigated disaster.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Really???? That's simple, because they want the Islamic militants that are Taliban/Islamic State hit and NOT THEIR FREAKEN CIVILIANS. The Pd program is a colossal failure and a recruiting tool for extremists. But I know you'll continue to support it, so..........watch for more extremism!!!!
    Oh you think I am ALL for the drone program.....now why would I. One who is use to combat up close and personal be so invested in a drone Program Monte?

    But then its okay for their government to keep requesting drones to hit their militants.....Right? But since it is Pakistan and their Officials and their people say, do this. That's okay since it isn't the US, Right?

    Where is that scorn and condemnation for the Pakistani for creating conflict with those who are against them Being in Power?

    What happened Monte.....why aren't you talking about what the Pakistan Government is doing to recruit constant fighters and rebels against them? Creating more terrorists. Whats up with that?

    Cmon Now.....can't you blame others besides the US?

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes, because as everyone can see, Obamas foreign policy decisions concerning Lyibia have been such a resounding success.

    Well, his foreign policy decisions concerning everyone and everything have been a unmitigated disaster.
    Oh shush. You're losing your "strategic patience". 600 years from now this will look much, much different.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Oh shush. You're losing your "strategic patience". 600 years from now this will look much, much different.
    Nah that wont work HB. As you can see with some its the US of A's fault for Shia killing Sunni and Sunni Killing Shia. Thats how the terrorists are being created.

    By that time they will have figured out a way to legitimize that the US went back in time and started the whole thing.

    There will be some historical record and some archeology proving a BIC lighter and a Hershey Bar was found. Something like that with the reason there was a big black hole, and caused time spacial shifts.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah that wont work HB. As you can see with some its the US of A's fault for Shia killing Sunni and Sunni Killing Shia. Thats how the terrorists are being created.

    By that time they will have figured out a way to legitimize that the US went back in time and started the whole thing.

    There will be some historical record and some archeology proving a BIC lighter and a Hershey Bar was found. Something like that with the reason there was a big black hole, and caused time spacial shifts.
    Well, we already have the success of Yemen to point to, and that's almost immediate. Just think how good it'll be in other places in 600 years. I expect that in less than 100 Bush will have donned a little black moustache in certain history books. Actually, by tomorrow probably, because the left only thinks one day at a time, and yesterday never happened because it's gone. I mean, who remembers, and who's to say another's memory is accurate, anyway?

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Well, we already have the success of Yemen to point to, and that's almost immediate. Just think how good it'll be in other places in 600 years. I expect that in less than 100 Bush will have donned a little black moustache in certain history books. Actually, by tomorrow probably, because the left only thinks one day at a time, and yesterday never happened because it's gone. I mean, who remembers, and who's to say another's memory is accurate, anyway?
    Oh Yemen.....haven't you heard. Besides the Iranians backing the Coup. BO says we will still continue to drone there. Have to remember the Control Room is in Dhjbouti.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh Yemen.....haven't you heard. Besides the Iranians backing the Coup. BO says we will still continue to drone there. Have to remember the Control Room is in Dhjbouti.
    Obama's gonna have a problem deciding which "who" to drone there now.

    Every president since Washington has inherited a used car. Blaming the former owner because it doesn't run well doesn't fix a damn thing, but it's sure a distraction for some. If Obama can't fix the car, maybe he should consider letting someone competent do the work.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Leftism is about feeling good about failure. It feels better to blame others, to say nobody else is better, etc. Its what gets them through the day. Maybe thats good enough for them, but not me.

    I lambast conservatives for trying to play nice-they are yearning for yesteryear where both sides could play ball. Out of many, one. In the mean time the left is busy smearing, blaming, and playing the many, from one game. But that era is gone, the left destroyed it.

    Fast forward 40 years and you see the end result in this forums lefties. They can't defend a thing, they dont know how. They can't intelligently discuss policy-they dont know how-but MAN can they smear and blame.
    The US left....

    All that is true of what I see in the Democrats and their supporters. As much as the left here is irresponsible, we do not hear a constant refrain aimed at leaders and failed leaders going back 30 to 50 years.

    Frankly, I have never seen this from a leading politician in my life. We have had some pretty stupid and inept leaders, Stephan Dion wanted to be Prime Minister because he had a dog named Kyoto, his only party trick was signing the Kyoto accord. The current NDP leader, a socialist, hasn't a clue about this country, thinks a higher minimum wage is the answer to terrorism and bad weather.

    However, I have never heard any of them or their followers ever say their current troubles were because of history, Luis St Laurent, Pierre Trudeau or even another country.

    This is a unique thing we have here, specific to a section of the national culture of America...more likely specific to Obama.

    It is a disease. This morning I was reminded of my kids, when very little and were caught, the answer was often "somebody did it." This is just a culture of that virus infecting the lame, lazy and stupid. They have run out of defenses, notice they cannot defend "you can keep your plan" with this garbage as no other president in history has ever lied so blatantly.

    and there I think is the nature of the problem. This loser from Poverty Pimp Inc. looked so good, he was glib and slick and promised EVERYTHING, he raised hopes so high they were dreams, but this soft-voiced negro sold them utopia, "fee everything" and punish the "rich too" but they never looked behind the facade to see that he was the rich....good leaders seek to represent everyone, Obama waged war on "enemies"

    So now, with the highest hopes turned to coals of resentment, the realization that this guy is a sack of ****, incompetent, dishonest and less than ready to defend America, his successor in the dynasty as bad or worse, incompetent, a liar, a coward as well....as well as old and fat they cannot bring themselves to admit that they have been hoodwinked, that the last seven years have been more than a waste of time and there has been no change, "hope" is a girl's name and they are, in the vernacular, ****ed.

    The personal character of Obama, his attitude toward "them" as in "guns and Bibles", "others" has divided the United States more than at any other time in my 65 years, and that includes the Vietnam era. He entered office on an excuse "I inherited this mess" as if every other president did not inherit a mess....Reagan was I would say right up there.

    Obama is a baby. His followers sense that and protect him with a blanket of vile, lies about history, now dead leaders [who the **** rakes the dead?] accusations of misdeeds and assaults on character...low life, scum sucking tactics thrown out like cowardly hockey players trying to look tough. They are not. They float on a wave of deceit, attack the messenger and assail character, sometimes the color of skin of an adopted baby, often the character of the dead, and save the most vile name calling "****" "whore" "slut' for Sarah Palin a woman who has never held national office.

    No sir, this is not a "leftist" issue, I actually can maintain respect for leftists here, this is a disease of character where those who have none have to rip aopart those who do and even better when their dead, because they can't defend themselves.

    It won't be 40 years. I am certain that I will see a collapse in my lifetime unless you people quit arguing about history and elect another Reagan...next time.

    Without that, you will go down with the motto"

    "It's the crusades fault!"
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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Uhhh.....it took action from a UN Ambassador and a Sec. of State to get the ball rolling and get the US involved.
    Ok.. The country was still destabilized before the US even got involved...

    Oh you must have forgot the bill Dick Durbin pressed forward to get more arms to the Ukrainians and get them more aid. As usual only looking at the Republicans.....while feigning concern about a hack show.
    No. I never said that Democrats arent war hawks. I simply said you look at just about every US intervention in the past 20 years and you will see Republicans love it.

    Looks like you are more concerned about Hillary than finding out about any truth.

    Nope. From my post you quoted: "I was against Obama bombing Libya in the first place. But this is a clear hack show. On one end you have Republicans to get involved in Ukraine, get involved in Syria, etc. but when it came to Libya (in which many in the GOP vocally supported) they are suddenly against it. What happened? Did the GOP randomly become the anti-hawk, anti-interventionist party? Or were they just the party that is against anything Obama does? I think this clearly shows the hypocrisy and the hack show this has become."


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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What you didn't think it wasn't going to show up or something?
    Yea. We've had these hearings going on for 3 years now, on the 8th investigation. Everyone was screaming there was gonna be something huge revealed, "bombshell revelations". What happened? Nothing. Quietly came out a couple months ago and said they didnt find any wrongdoing...

    Also.....didn't the State Dept just release 15k of documents they had not given out before? How did that come about and who caused those Documents to be released?
    Yup. And Hillary is going to testify.


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