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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    When are you going to get it through your skull that the Democratic Party isn't particularly representative of liberalism?

    It is simply pointless to bother with you. You just puke up talking points.
    Having thought about this a bit more, I can see instances where Obama and the present crop of Democrats aren't very liberal, at least in the classic sense of liberalism with the classic liberal ideals, and I can also see instances where they are rather liberal, at least in the sense of the worst of what I would think liberalism is.

    Now if you want to take the position that the present crop of Democrats have brought the worst aspects of non-classic liberalism to the fore, I think we, you and I anyway, might find more agreement than disagreement on that.

    Taken to the reflexive, the same might be, and can probably be, said for classic conservatism and the last crop of Republicans. The new crop, the ones just voted into office, I think it's a bit too early to say, just yet. They've not yet established themselves, nor been in office long enough to have demonstrated a track record in their new offices. I guess we'll see as time goes on and this new congress develops.
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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Thanks for telling me who I have and will vote for. Sure do appreciate it.

    I didn't vote for Obama in 2012. Boy, it must suck being so consistently wrong, doesn't it?
    Kobie, its not just democrats, its liberals. We know how they vote.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Top Pentagon officials and a senior Democrat in Congress so distrusted Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2011 march to war in Libya that they opened their own diplomatic channels with the Gadhafi regime in an effort to halt the escalating crisis, according to secret audio recordings recovered from Tripoli.

    The tapes, reviewed by The Washington Times and authenticated by the participants, chronicle U.S. officials’ unfiltered conversations with Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s son and a top Libyan leader, including criticisms that Mrs. Clinton had developed tunnel vision and led the U.S. into an unnecessary war without adequately weighing the intelligence community’s concerns.


    Read more: Hillary Clinton undercut on Libya war by Pentagon and Congress,
    secret tapes reveal - Washington Time
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    More here... http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/621724

    A few interesting points here... It suggests that Hillary was relying on false intelligence to go into Libya. Hillary was apparently pushing the genocide angle, is Kucinich lying?

    In any case, its interesting what parallels between the lefts arguments on Iraq and going into Libya are...


    If those tapes are secret then how did the far-right Mooney-Times get their hands on them?

    Sounds like some laws may have been broken.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If those tapes are secret then how did the far-right Mooney-Times get their hands on them?

    Sounds like some laws may have been broken.
    You best get to the bottom of that.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kobie, its not just democrats, its liberals. We know how they vote.
    So you can successfully predict the vote of all liberals?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Top Pentagon officials and a senior Democrat in Congress so distrusted Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2011 march to war in Libya that they opened their own diplomatic channels with the Gadhafi regime in an effort to halt the escalating crisis, according to secret audio recordings recovered from Tripoli.

    The tapes, reviewed by The Washington Times and authenticated by the participants, chronicle U.S. officials’ unfiltered conversations with Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s son and a top Libyan leader, including criticisms that Mrs. Clinton had developed tunnel vision and led the U.S. into an unnecessary war without adequately weighing the intelligence community’s concerns.


    Read more: Hillary Clinton undercut on Libya war by Pentagon and Congress, secret tapes reveal - Washington Times
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    More here... http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/621724

    A few interesting points here... It suggests that Hillary was relying on false intelligence to go into Libya. Hillary was apparently pushing the genocide angle, is Kucinich lying?

    In any case, its interesting what parallels between the lefts arguments on Iraq and going into Libya are...


    Yeah, she got tricked by the French and she was listening to Susan Rice her Ambassador in the UN. This is what people have been saying with going after Hillary. Not just due to her Incompetence with Benghazi. But her real screw up with Libya and the how she got BO peep to tag along.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohhh now I see where this is going. This investigation that has found nothing in the past years, are now turning the page and instead not the attack itself, but now reasons for bombing Libya. Funny how they moved the goalposts. I guess this is the first time that Republicans are against dropping bombs on a country...
    What you didn't think it wasn't going to show up or something? Also.....didn't the State Dept just release 15k of documents they had not given out before? How did that come about and who caused those Documents to be released?

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The Moony Times and NewsMax? you must be kidding me.

    /thread
    Are the references and sources validated?

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhhhh the country was in a civil war... It was already destabilized.
    And as I explained earlier: "I was against Obama bombing Libya in the first place. But this is a clear hack show. On one end you have Republicans to get involved in Ukraine, get involved in Syria, etc. but when it came to Libya (in which many in the GOP vocally supported) they are suddenly against it. What happened? Did the GOP randomly become the anti-hawk, anti-interventionist party? Or were they just the party that is against anything Obama does? I think this clearly shows the hypocrisy and the hack show this has become."


    Im against a hack show which this "investigation" has clearly become.
    Uhhh.....it took action from a UN Ambassador and a Sec. of State to get the ball rolling and get the US involved.

    Oh you must have forgot the bill Dick Durbin pressed forward to get more arms to the Ukrainians and get them more aid. As usual only looking at the Republicans.....while feigning concern about a hack show.

    Looks like you are more concerned about Hillary than finding out about any truth.

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    re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If you read the articles I linked to, you would see that Benghazi was not mentioned. This pertains to the entire conflict. And it may be a game changer. I have no doubt more info is coming on this.
    I doubt that a Secretary of State would ever lie to the American people, or the UN to support a case for war.
    Nah, would never happen...................
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    Hillary is the only defense I or anyone else needs.
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    Not once have I showed my dick to a woman and she thought it was creepy. In fact, in 100% of the cases, they were pretty excited about it. I don't know who you're showing your **** too.

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