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Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'


And there is also this type of thing out there as well: DOWN: Hospital costs. A report released yesterday by the Department of Health and Human Services revealed that hospitals will save $5.7 billion in uncompensated care costs — money spent by hospitals on people who go to the emergency room and are unable to pay their bills. In particular, states that have opted to expand Medicaid through the ACA are benefiting the most: $4.2 billion of these savings, or 74 percent, come in states that expanded their Medicaid programs. Meanwhile, conservative leaders in 21 states have refused to expand, a move that is crippling hospitals in their states who aren’t benefiting from these savings.

Under Obamacare, insurance premiums, hospital costs go down - North Denver News

Premiums Set to Decline Slightly for Benchmark ACA Marketplace Insurance Plans in 2015

Premiums Set to Decline Slightly for Benchmark ACA Marketplace Insurance Plans in 2015 | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

They point to historically low increases in overall medical spending and affordable premiums in government-run exchanges.

Uninsured rates fell under Obamacare, but who's reaping the benefit? - LA Times
 

And there is also this type of thing out there as well: DOWN: Hospital costs. A report released yesterday by the Department of Health and Human Services revealed that hospitals will save $5.7 billion in uncompensated care costs — money spent by hospitals on people who go to the emergency room and are unable to pay their bills. In particular, states that have opted to expand Medicaid through the ACA are benefiting the most: $4.2 billion of these savings, or 74 percent, come in states that expanded their Medicaid programs. Meanwhile, conservative leaders in 21 states have refused to expand, a move that is crippling hospitals in their states who aren’t benefiting from these savings.

Under Obamacare, insurance premiums, hospital costs go down - North Denver News

Premiums Set to Decline Slightly for Benchmark ACA Marketplace Insurance Plans in 2015

Premiums Set to Decline Slightly for Benchmark ACA Marketplace Insurance Plans in 2015 | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

They point to historically low increases in overall medical spending and affordable premiums in government-run exchanges.

Uninsured rates fell under Obamacare, but who's reaping the benefit? - LA Times
 
Do you have any proof?


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So forgive me but to suggest your costs have been going down, seems to be the exception not the rule and I am not really convinced it's gone down.

Your charts look pretty consistent to me, showing no real change. Remember it's being compared to the rate of past changes, not zero.
 
Much worse, yes. If you guys work at it, you might improve to BDS levels. Try reading the stuff put up on Obama, . . . with a rational mind.
Yeah, I've seen it. And some is over the top, jus as with Bush. So, other than you crying that your poor little thin skinned liar in office can't take it, I don't see what you are doing with this line other than looking petty.
 
Yeah, I've seen it. And some is over the top, jus as with Bush. So, other than you crying that your poor little thin skinned liar in office can't take it, I don't see what you are doing with this line other than looking petty.

Some over the top, like this very whiney thread. Hello kettle!
 
Yeah, I've seen it. And some is over the top, jus as with Bush. So, other than you crying that your poor little thin skinned liar in office can't take it, I don't see what you are doing with this line other than looking petty.

No one's crying. I'm merely asking that people read this honestly and not with ODS. That's how we can have rational discussions.
 
No one's crying. I'm merely asking that people read this honestly and not with ODS. That's how we can have rational discussions.

Yeah, that would be nice, but sadly that is not today's political reality...Congratulations to libs for poisoning the well. My opinion is that what you are really asking is that people stop criticizing Obama, but it is fine for you to criticize at will, and say what ever you think is fine...Rather one sided no?
 
Nobody forced anything, my hypocrisy detector was triggered again.

Well, if you don't like what you are reading, then find another thread that suits you better...Or do you just think that everyone must agree with you?
 
From what I've gathered from a general reading of this thread, there are several people who believe that ISIL/ISIS is nothing more than a spin-off of Al-Qaeda. The crazy thing is even Al-Qaeda leaders have said that ISIL/ISIS is far more brutal than they are and have taken steps to distance themselves from them. I'd have to say those who are upset that the President won't link the two terror groups together are either extremely partisan or extremely delusional. :shrug:

Wow.

One terror group + Another terror group = Two terror groups.

Extremely partisan.
 
Yeah, that would be nice, but sadly that is not today's political reality...Congratulations to libs for poisoning the well. My opinion is that what you are really asking is that people stop criticizing Obama, but it is fine for you to criticize at will, and say what ever you think is fine...Rather one sided no?

Both sides have poisoned plenty. But what side do you want to be on? The honest side or the exaggerating sky is falling faux outrage lying FOS side?
 
Both sides have poisoned plenty. But what side do you want to be on? The honest side or the exaggerating sky is falling faux outrage lying FOS side?
There is no doubt that both sides play politics with issues, I never said any differently. But it is telling that you think that liberal politics is "honest"... if it weren't so sad, it'd be laughable
 
There is no doubt that both sides play politics with issues, I never said any differently. But it is telling that you think that liberal politics is "honest"... if it weren't so sad, it'd be laughable

Now j, no where did I say. You do a terrible job of addressing what is actually said.
 
Now j, no where did I say. You do a terrible job of addressing what is actually said.

And you do a pretty fair job of deflecting the debate and making it about me rather than addressing the issue.
 
In fact, George Bush declared that god directed his foreign policy. Can I say hypocrisy!!!

Then that idiot had the audacity to call his M.E. foreign policy a crusade that will take some time.



Not smart.
 
Then that idiot had the audacity to call his M.E. foreign policy a crusade that will take some time.



Not smart.


The Crusades were a response to Muslim aggression in the area....

 
Then that idiot had the audacity to call his M.E. foreign policy a crusade that will take some time.



Not smart.


Yep, only once though. He got hit over the head about it so hard, even by his own party, we never heard it again. Of course, those in the Middle East never forgot it.
 
Yep, only once though. He got hit over the head about it so hard, even by his own party, we never heard it again. Of course, those in the Middle East never forgot it.

Cowardice shouldn't drive policy narrative.
 
The Crusades were a response to Muslim aggression in the area....



Yep. Islam was spreading through the use of the sword. The conquests of Christianity expansion isn't exactly bloodless. They also often took the "convert or die" approach from time to time.

This vid shows all major religions' beginning and expansion paths.

 
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