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Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

CRUE CAB said:
How many thousands did the Klan kill in the name of religion? How long ago?
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Despite Obama's burning desire to make equivelants, I'd say the KKK probably murdered about 10 or so people for religous reasons. Of these, most were white Catholics. This number would also count some (7?) Italian railway workers killed because they were seen to be taking jobs from local protestants. The fact that the Italians were also Catholic made it easier for the KKK to justify the attack.
 
MMC said:
Waitaminute Luther :2wave: ......they were the JV Team first, then the cult group. Now he calls them an organization. But here is another reason why.....with BO thinking about those minorities when it comes to religion and if they are being picked on.





Farhana Khera, executive director of the civil rights group Muslim Advocates, one of 13 participants, said the session gave Obama a chance to focus on Muslim Americans the way he has done with other constituencies, such as African American and Jewish groups. “I started off by saying the biggest concern I hear from Muslim parents is their fear that their children will be ashamed to be Muslim” because of discrimination, Khera said. “We are asking him to use his bully pulpit to have a White House summit on hate crimes against religious minorities, much like the summit on bullying reset the conversation around LGBT youth.”

Obama emphasized the need to respect minorities in his speech Thursday, saying it was part of the obligation Americans face as members of a diverse and open society, “And if, in fact, we defend the legal right of a person to insult another’s religion, we’re equally obligated to use our free speech to condemn such insults — and stand shoulder to shoulder with religious communities, particularly religious minorities who are the targets of such attacks.”.....snip~

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ma-condemns-those-seek-hijack-religion-4.html
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Just like everything else in the world the liberals believe that respect is a human right and that there should be no requirement to EARN it.

Instead of encouraging the Muslim community to recognize the danger of radicalization, rooting it out and taking steps to insure that it doesn't grow back Obama and the Democrats are just going to pat them on the fanny then hand them a sandwich and a voter registration card. The guy has a spine made of overcooked linguini and it's disgusting that this nation has tolerated his crap for as long as they have.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Slyfox696. :2wave:

I have many direct quotes from Obama that seem to contradict what you have posted, and I can cite them if you wish. However, in the interim, I will ask you to remember the recovered Muslim Brotherhood manifestos which were admitted as evidence into Federal Court in 2007 during the Holy Land Foundation trial which explicitly states their undying obsession with the conquest of western civilization, and that they will accomplish that goal "from within."

If you wish, google Anti Jihad Report for an article titled Decades of UNINDICTED Muslim Co-Conspirators is MAJOR REASON Why America Is In Such A Mess written by Ben Barrack dated January 15, 2015.
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Hi there Polgara! Your quite correct, and this is Karma for better than a century of Western interference and aggression in the region. This is why we need people that think like Ron Paul (in terms of foreign policy, I'm not defending his entire platform) to advance a new policy that promotes and delivers peace to the region, that lifts everybody up and encourages progress and advancement. Our policies the past few decades have the region in flames and things are worse then they've been in a very long time. Sure its old news, but don't forget the suffering and chaos unfolding in Libya, a North African country we have helped put into ruin.
 
Zyphlin said:
Are you suggesting he can't say ISIS? Or are you meaning something else? Because he says ISIS pretty routinely I believe.
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I meant Al Qaida.....since that's who they are.
 
j-mac said:
I searched two pages of the BN forum, and couldn't find this story anywhere, and my apologies if it was already posted...But, come on folks....Give me a damned break! :doh This would be like Churchill during WWII telling us that although the Nazi's were bad, that maybe they were justified for what the Moore's did centuries earlier....It's a load of crap!

There is no equivalency....It's a false narrative that once again leads some to believe that Obama protects, and runs cover for terrorists.
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What a ****in idiot. It's the talking points though i mean look at this:

Yes, ISIS Burned a Man Alive: White Americans Did the Same Thing to Black People by the Thousands


I sense a pattern,
 
Zyphlin said:
It's not an attempt to apologize for the jihadists. One can look at the full text of his speech and see that he is absolutely condemning them.

What it is attempting is to completely and utterly detach the actions of ISIS from Islam in any fashion, to paint it as something wholey different and unrelated, and something that should not be used to any degree as a reflection on the current situation of the religion of Islam.

Which is interest, becuase I can not recall ever once seeing him nor any liberal attempting to detach the Crusades from Christianity as something wholey different and unrelated, and something that should not be used to any degree as a reflection on the situation of the religion of Christian, past or present.
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You can't detatch islamic radicalism from islam. Especially when we are the loudest voices against it.
 
Cryptic said:
Despite Obama's burning desire to make equivelants, I'd say the KKK probably murdered about 10 or so people for religous reasons. Of these, most were white Catholics. This number would also count some (7?) Italian railway workers killed because they were seen to be taking jobs from local protestants. The fact that the Italians were also Catholic made it easier for the KKK to justify the attack.
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I should demand reparations, being that I am Italian and Catholic.
 
Montecresto said:
Hi there Polgara! Your quite correct, and this is Karma for better than a century of Western interference and aggression in the region. This is why we need people that think like Ron Paul (in terms of foreign policy, I'm not defending his entire platform) to advance a new policy that promotes and delivers peace to the region, that lifts everybody up and encourages progress and advancement. Our policies the past few decades have the region in flames and things are worse then they've been in a very long time. Sure its old news, but don't forget the suffering and chaos unfolding in Libya, a North African country we have helped put into ruin.
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Hi back to you, Montecresto! :2wave: Where you been - I missed you!
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
What a ****in idiot. It's the talking points though i mean look at this:

Yes, ISIS Burned a Man Alive: White Americans Did the Same Thing to Black People by the Thousands


I sense a pattern,
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And not just black people. With our napalm bombs in Dresden and Tokyo, and Vietnam, other races and ethnicities were burnt alive. And then there's incineration by nuclear bombs dropped on two civilian targets. Not a support of anything the Islamic State is doing, just pointing out how people can justify anything, the above mentioned atrocities have been justified by patronising Americans for decades.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I should demand reparations, being that I am Italian and Catholic.
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I knew you were Catholic, but I always pictured you as being irish or english background. Most of the native Floridian Catholics in the panhandle seem to be of these backgrounds, or old spanish.
 
Kobie said:
I don't think any conservative in the known universe has any business accusing any other human being of playing the victim card.
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And you've been running around the site recently condemning those who lump all liberals in one pot?
 
Kobie said:
Oh, Republicans are mad about something Obama said? Please, tell me more.
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Try google bing and whoever else and take your pick.....theres plenty to go around. Check overseas to, I wouldn't want you to miss any of their critics either.
 
Zyphlin said:
ISIS or ISIL, depending on which term you want to use. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria/Levant. What am I missing? He says that all the time?
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AQI was largely defeated after the US convinced local tribes to rise up against them -- a strategy known as "The Awakening", which has deeply influenced IS strategy.

"From the beginning, they've been obsessed with the Awakening," said Hassan. "They've done everything to prevent it happening again: built sleeper cells, bought loyalty, divided communities. "They've succeeded in making internal resistance practically impossible. No tribe will fight them, because they will find themselves fighting their own brothers and cousins."

Although the Baathists were originally a secular movement, Saddam introduced a "Faith campaign" in the 1990s that sought to Islamise society. "Very few people have focused on the impact of that campaign," said Hassan. "It radicalised many Baathists and they combined the violence of the regime with that of jihadism, making them even worse than Al-Qaeda." "But they have combined religion, geopolitics, economics and much more in their ideology.....snip~

IS has built near-impregnable base and mass appeal: new book

http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-terror/216080-has-built-near-impregnable-base-and-mass-appeal.html
 
Kobie said:
I don't think any conservative in the known universe has any business accusing any other human being of playing the victim card.
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Hopefully there's not an example of a liberal ever playing the victim card at any point in history, lest you get on your high horse too soon.
 
Cryptic said:
I knew you were Catholic, but I always pictured you as being irish or english background. Most of the native Floridian Catholics in the panhandle seem to be of these backgrounds, or old spanish.
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Native to Washington DC, till I was 7. Then east central Florida on the coast.
 
Montecresto said:
And not just black people. With our napalm bombs in Dresden and Tokyo, and Vietnam, other races and ethnicities were burnt alive. And then there's incineration by nuclear bombs dropped on two civilian targets. Not a support of anything the Islamic State is doing, just pointing out how people can justify anything, the above mentioned atrocities have been justified by patronising Americans for decades.
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You act like that was done in a vacuum. I mean really bro, both sides carpet bombed cities, that's how war was fought back then.
 
MildSteel said:
That is not true. Obama has not provided any cover for ISIS whatsoever.
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When Obama refuses to call these heinous acts terrorism and ignores them, hoping they will go away, he is aiding and abetting our enemies.
 
Lutherf said:
Just like everything else in the world the liberals believe that respect is a human right and that there should be no requirement to EARN it.

Instead of encouraging the Muslim community to recognize the danger of radicalization, rooting it out and taking steps to insure that it doesn't grow back Obama and the Democrats are just going to pat them on the fanny then hand them a sandwich and a voter registration card. The guy has a spine made of overcooked linguini and it's disgusting that this nation has tolerated his crap for as long as they have.
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Careful now Luther.....you will have them running around and saying you hate BO peep. :lol:
 
j-mac said:
I searched two pages of the BN forum, and couldn't find this story anywhere, and my apologies if it was already posted...But, come on folks....Give me a damned break! :doh This would be like Churchill during WWII telling us that although the Nazi's were bad, that maybe they were justified for what the Moore's did centuries earlier....It's a load of crap!

There is no equivalency....It's a false narrative that once again leads some to believe that Obama protects, and runs cover for terrorists.
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Of course it is a load of crap. Just as his refusal to identify the worst of the murderous terrorists as Muslim or referring to Islam or Muslim in his pronouncements. But he sure had no problem commenting on people who 'cling to guns and Bibles' or berating Christians as some kind of evil religion.

Why is it okay to talk about Christian atrocities from the distant past and not okay to talk about Islamic atrocities now? Why can't we tell it like it is and trust at least those with two brain cells to rub together to understand that those acting badly in the name of their faith do not condemn the whole religion?
 
MMC said:
Careful now Luther.....you will have them running around and saying you hate BO peep. :lol:
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I don't hate the guy. I've never met him and for all I know he's a blast to hang out with. What I do hate, however, is his politics. Damned near everything the guy does or tries to do flies in the face of everything I hold dear as an American.
 
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