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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Looks to me like the Crusadrs were a response to Muslim aggressions.
    That's just an historical fact. The evidence is that, with the exception of Israel, Islam rules the entire Middle East. Perhaps that's why Leftists are, along with Muslims, so anti Jew.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You didn't point out any religion's atrocities, because the objective was to villanize Christians, in order to excuse the islamofacists. It's the dame phony argument, that the Muslims aren't responsible for Muslim atrocities, someone else is.
    And with that, we're done here.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And with that, we're done here.
    You could offer him some congratulations and be more noble in defeat.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And with that, we're done here.
    There always comes a point in a "debate" with people who clearly aren't interested in objective or intelligent discussion where you realize they simply aren't worth the time. And that point comes sooner with some than others.

    I commend your efforts in this thread.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You didn't point out any religion's atrocities, because the objective was to villanize Christians, in order to excuse the islamofacists. It's the dame phony argument, that the Muslims aren't responsible for Muslim atrocities, someone else is.
    No, the point was that some Christians were waving their dicks around, pretending to be superior to Muslims, when given the same circumstances, Christians acted every bit as badly as Muslims are now. It isn't an attempt to villainize Christians, it's an attempt to show that both sides are pricks.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    There always comes a point in a "debate" with people who clearly aren't interested in objective or intelligent discussion where you realize they simply aren't worth the time. And that point comes sooner with some than others.

    I commend your efforts in this thread.
    There is a time on most debates where one side digs in their heels and refuses to listen to reason and the other side simply has to shrug and move on. Some types of debates are worse in this regard, as are some debaters.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's just an historical fact. The evidence is that, with the exception of Israel, Islam rules the entire Middle East. Perhaps that's why Leftists are, along with Muslims, so anti Jew.
    "Leftists" are not "anti-Jew." That's an utterly asinine, absurd, idiotic and breathtakingly dishonest statement.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Leftists" are not "anti-Jew." That's an utterly asinine, absurd, idiotic and breathtakingly dishonest statement.
    And "rightists" are not pro-Jew. Let's be honest, the only reason the fundies care about Israel is because they have to keep it around so it can be a material component in their end-times summon Jesus spell. They want it destroyed, they just don't want it destroyed right this minute.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And "rightists" are not pro-Jew. Let's be honest, the only reason the fundies care about Israel is because they have to keep it around so it can be a material component in their end-times summon Jesus spell. They want it destroyed, they just don't want it destroyed right this minute.
    Are You talking about the belief held by certian Christian fundementalists that has the rebuilding of Solomon's temple on juresalems Temple Mount as a requirement for the 2nd coming of Christ?
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Are You talking about the belief held by certian Christian fundementalists that has the rebuilding of Solomon's temple on juresalems Temple Mount as a requirement for the 2nd coming of Christ?
    Among others, yes. That's why there are a stream of fundamentalist Christians who go to Israel and try to smuggle explosives under the Dome of the Rock so they can blow it up. This is a constant issue for Israeli security, as I'm sure you would imagine.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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