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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He was so concerned he never directy spoke of it.... Not to his twelve all-male party pals.
    Matthew 19:4-6: 4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

    So if marriage is between a man and a woman by God's design then that would make homosexuality a form of fornication which is a sin.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Should Obama address Congress with this:

    "Lest Democrats get on their high horse, it should be remembered that slavery, bigotry, racism, homophobia, gender discrimination, Jim Crow laws, racial segregation and gerrymanders all have been done in the Democratic name."

    Why hasn't he?

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I did read it. I also realize that you have repeated refused to address what you wrote or even attempt to clarify what your position is so it's all too obvious that you know you said something so monumentally stupid that even YOU don't want to go read it again.
    Lol dude, take a look at sentence structure. What the hell are you even talking about? This is beyond typo!
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Matthew 19:4-6: 4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

    So if marriage is between a man and a woman by God's design then that would make homosexuality a form of fornication which is a sin.
    Oh dear!!
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You totally right. Very, very good point. That said, there are aspects of the Old Testament that Jesus did want his followers to adhere to. But again, I agree with you here. I yield that point because it is a very strong one and is something that I feel strongly about myself.



    The point is this, although Jesus taught non-violence with regards to one's personal situation, when it came to directly disrespecting God, he was violent. Therefore you cannot say that violence has absolutely no place in Christianity. However, that should be reserved for someone, like Jesus, whose sole motivation is to please God.
    What a big lie. The Bible gives no account of Jesus being violent against another person. Tossing over tables is not an act of violence.

    The desperation to try to claim the roots of Christianity have ANY similarity to the roots of Islam leads to making every possible false claim. Unlike the account of Jesus, it is historic fact that Muhammad was a killer, engaged in murderous raids, lead wars and invasions, ordered the destruction of non-Islamic temples, and called for people to be forced to convert.

    Christianity was started by the "Prince of Peace." Islam was started by the "Prince of War." ISIS and the other violent militant Muslims is their attempting to return to the original Islamic religion of war, forced conversion, forced submission to religious laws, and expansion of a Islamic empire by terror, war and invasion. That is the origins of the Islamic religion.

    All the nice-talk of Obama and others about 'Islam is a religion of peace" is false and always has been false. It is a religion of war and has been from it's very start and by it's founder.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What a big lie. The Bible gives no account of Jesus being violent against another person. Tossing over tables is not an act of violence.

    The desperation to try to claim the roots of Christianity have ANY similarity to the roots of Islam leads to making every possible false claim. Unlike the account of Jesus, it is historic fact that Muhammad was a killer, engaged in murderous raids, lead wars and invasions, ordered the destruction of non-Islamic temples, and called for people to be forced to convert.

    Christianity was started by the "Prince of Peace." Islam was started by the "Prince of War." ISIS and the other violent militant Muslims is their attempting to return to the original Islamic religion of war, forced conversion, forced submission to religious laws, and expansion of a Islamic empire by terror, war and invasion. That is the origins of the Islamic religion.

    All the nice-talk of Obama and others about 'Islam is a religion of peace" is false and always has been false. It is a religion of war and has been from it's very start and by it's founder.
    Lol, as though the bible is serious piece of work.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    A US President should not try to be an amateur-theologian of any particular religion.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I said EXACTLY what I meant. Nothing more, nothing less.No it isn't because that was certainly violence. The difference in that case is that it was violence committed in the process of the glorification of God. The motivation is key. Jesus was not angry because something that someone had done to him. He was angry that God's property was being misused. That is glorified anger. Do you not realize that anger can be used in the service of God? The motivation must be pure however.
    Flipping a table over is not violence. This is violence. http://www.barenakedislam.com/catego...adings-graphic

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Matthew 19:4-6: 4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

    So if marriage is between a man and a woman by God's design then that would make homosexuality a form of fornication which is a sin.
    Tortuous inference. C-
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You should look at the founders of the religion and what their philosophies were if you want to discuss the subject seriously.
    We can have that discussion if you would like. I am ready.

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