Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy
Again I ask of the Obama blatherers to supply a list of Democrat senators and congressmen who voted "no" on the invasion of Iraq and be clear on how Obama voted.
Classic now that he is clearly losing the war, the debate must be shifted to history, an invasion ten years ago, Reagan and, I expect soon, some blame heaped at Eisenhower just as soon as they figure out where to find some bloggers who know who that is.
The president has justified the enemy. He has consistently tried to undermine and lessen the atrocities of his not-Muslim, not terrorists from a "spontaneous demonstration, to a fake and unnecessary war in Libya that has de-stabilized the country, to a mess in Iraq when he had inherited a controlled situation [enough he could meet the time table, allowed a war to rage in Syria for five years before mentioning red lines, and now minimizes the horror of being burned alive by a disingenuous reference to events of 1,000 years ago.
You know, they used to call that treason.
"Small people talk about people, average people talk about events, great people talk about ideas" Eleanor Roosevelt
The thing is this MMC, when we start getting into matters of religion, we are going beyond the mundane plane into matters that are beyond empirical sense perception. Now it is indeed possible to do that, but it is very difficult, and it simply cannot be done without the help of someone who is divine like Jesus. Because we are not on the level of Jesus such that we can directly perceive that which is indeed divine, we need to focus on what we can do. As a nation, we can elect leaders to determine what is in our interests as a nation and declare what we will do if we think that someone or a group is in violation of those interests. Real religion is not about dominating others. Real religion is about doing the will of God, no matter what. That is what made Abraham so great, and as a result God was so pleased that he has blessed his children. It is so that all of us, no matter who we are, will learn the lesson that if we are willing to do the will of God, God will take care of us and bless our efforts. Jesus took it a step further. His relationship with God, his Father, was so intense that he would do anything to please God. Even to the point of tolerating being tortured and killed for the sake of others. That is pure love of God. Therefore Jesus taught that the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart. It is not about dominating others, because everything is subject to the will of God, therefore Jesus taught that the will of God is done not only in heaven, but in the Earth as well. Where is the room for dominating others? Any rate, kind of went a bit long on that, but my point is we need to stick with where we are at. The U.S. does not need to be getting into wars on religious grounds. We should stick to what we perceive to be in our interests.
Last edited by MildSteel; 02-07-15 at 02:37 PM.
A lot of these terrorists are relatives, friends and fellow tribesmen of the many thousands of the people who were killed for no good reason as a result of Bush's un-necessary war in Iraq.
Those people are looking for some payback.
It's kind of like the Hatfields and McCoys on a world-wide scale.
It's going to take a long time to kill all of those people.
"What goes around, comes around."
Last edited by shrubnose; 02-07-15 at 02:44 PM.
For instance the Chechen terrorists were increasing terrorist activities around the turn of the century but well before the Iraqi invasion:
Chechen Terrorism (Russia, Chechnya, Separatist) - Council on Foreign Relations
And yes, the Chechens are Muslim with ties to al Qaida.
So again the President's reluctance to identify terrorism with Islam and the Left's determination to blame George Bush for most of it remains problematic if we all want to be real about what is happening.
"I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776
“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert”. – J Robert Oppenheimer.