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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I sincerely believe if the USA had stayed out of Iraq (Which was no threat to the USA.) We would have a lot more peace on this planet.

    But we don't have a time machine so we can't undo Bush's disaster in Iraq.
    In fact it was successful and even Barrack Obama said so.

    The real problems began after Obama ordered a retreat.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Man, you Christians sure do get livid when a negro says Christianity was anything other than perfect.
    You know how I know we are actually correct in our rather simple and narrow critique here? You are forced to resort to particularly stupid strawmen including the race card.

    At no point did he excuse ISIS's actions in any way, shape or form.
    Did you notice how no one in the posts you quoted claimed that he did?

    No. You have what you want to respond to, and no reason allowing the little fact that you can't find it mess with that, eh?

    He called them evil barbarians and is currently waging a bombing campaign against them, supporting the local nations. I find it extremely sad that you guys seem to have run out of actual things to whine about that you have to make things up that he never said or even implied.
    What the President said is a dumb enough cliche not to need embellishment.

    We're not gearing up for another war like you'd like because the American people don't want another war, and Obama is respecting our wish.
    I don't know if you follow the news or not, but we've been steadily increasing out footprint in Iraq.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Irrelevant. Those terrorists wouldn't have been able to get the power they have today had dumbya not invaded back in 2003--a fact which he was repeatedly warned about, so those deaths wouldn't have happened.

    Big question is when are you and your right wing bros gonna suit up and ship out to go fight ISIS, i. e. take responsibility for your voting screwup in 2000 and 2004?
    That's interesting logic. Do you blame the Japanese for the atomic bombs, then?

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact it was successful
    and even Barrack Obama said so.

    The real problems began after Obama ordered a retreat.


    The only country on this planet that gained anything from Bush's Iraq war is Iran.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The only country on this planet that gained anything from Bush's Iraq war is Iran.
    Following Obama's retreat, of course.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    And we're still waiting for one of these right wingers to explain how O could be responsible for not cleaning up the mess caused dumbya's deliberate destabilization of the ME.

    Analysts' Warnings of Iraq Chaos Detailed

    The clock is ticking.

    When you figure that part out, on how terrorism has increased under BO and expanded and with more groups and AQ themselves growing in Strength fourfold, then you might have just caught up with current events.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Following Obama's retreat, of course.


    Wrong.

    After Bush's replacement of Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated government with a Shia-dominated government Iran was mighty happy with the fine job that Bush had done.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact it was successful and even Barrack Obama said so.

    The real problems began after Obama ordered a retreat.
    I would guess most of us now wish we had never invaded Iraq in 2003. But the fact remains that there was strong bipartisan support voted in Congress and 70% approval rating from the public and approval from almost all heads of state in the free world and most of the Middle East and absolutely no objection from the U.N. when we did so. We were actually enforcing numerous U.N. resolutions. At least 23 countries committed some troops, N.A.T.O. furnished a contingency of advisors, and others contributed other support services. So to call it 'Bush's War' is really a misnomer.

    It was pulling our punches during the nation building part that became the problem and allowed those who did not want a free and democratic Iraq to regain a foothold there and it was that insurgency that caused most of the deaths to both military and civilian populations. I do fault the Bush administration for handling that part of it badly.

    The bombing raids in Syria may have been philosophically justified with little if any objections from Congress, but the conventional wisdom is that it has forced cooperation between al Qaida and ISIS that had not existed since they separated some months earlier. Should that have been foreseen? History will judge that.

    What impact does Obama's comments at the prayer breakfast have on all this? Well, including being highly offensive to millions of Americans, history will also judge whether his timidity or empathy with the terrorists--you pick--encourages terrorism by assuring them the terrorists they are having at least psychological success with the American President.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nobody forced those terrorists to target civilians. That's a decision they made, all...by...themselves.


    Wait....

    Is the war in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. still on?

    If so, why the **** are you blathering about history and who ****ed up? Don't you care about your country? The fighting men and women risking their lives? Or are yo0u primarily concerned about Hitler, WWII and the holocuast? Because if so, go start a ****ing thread on that offering you uninformed opinions as THIS tread is abot today. not ****ing history...OK?

    Now can we return to the topic of Obama and how HE fights wars ...or doesn't?
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Irrelevant. Those terrorists wouldn't have been able to get the power they have today had dumbya not invaded back in 2003--a fact which he was repeatedly warned about, so those deaths wouldn't have happened.

    Big question is when are you and your right wing bros gonna suit up and ship out to go fight ISIS, i. e. take responsibility for your voting screwup in 2000 and 2004?

    Please substantiate that absolutely absurd opinion.

    No where in ten years have I seen that even remotely suggested by anyone who would be even close to knowing.

    I say it's another invention of Pretzel Logic inc.
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