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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Remember now, I don't disagree in the rate of growth of terrorism. Had our intervention ended with Iraq and Afghanistan our efforts would have produced less terrorism than what we have now. The Bush power vacuums created in Iraq and Afghanistan, emboldened terrorism. But now then, add to that the subsequent administrations support of MB in Egypt, its use and support of AQ in Libya, its support of AQ, al Nusra and others in Syria, the Bush on steroids use of PD's, killing a disproportionate amount of civilians, and as such, further radicalising extremists, in places like Yemen and Pakistan, and HELL YEAH, extremists are quadrupling!!!!! Have we all had enough yet, or are we going to continue to support a US policy of intervention, interference, nation building, exploitation and the likes, that has proven to be a failure? And anybody, no, ANYBODY that thinks that the past few decades of US policy in the Middle East has been anything but destructive, isn't observing the results. From Carter to Obama, failure. If it makes MMC feel better to beat Obama over the head as the biggest contributor to terrorism in the ME, I'll not argue with you, but neither of the other four produced fruit there either. Its time for a complete transformation in the thinking of how we deal with the ME and help nurture the region forward, cause beating the region to death hasn't helped a bit.


    Even if we would never ever been involved from when Churchill opened things up. It still wouldn't stop this Monte.



    Which doesn't count the Saud's United States of Islam. Nor the thought of a United States of Africa that Gadhafi was pushing.

    Nor the Shia's own version of the Caliphate with them Dominating and subjugating the Sunni.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Obama: "ISIL Is A Terrorist Organization, Pure And Simple"
    So was/is the MB he supported in Egypt, AQ which he supported and used in Libya, AQ and al Nusra which he supported and armed in Syria. In fairness, similar hypocritical polices were followed by previous presidents though.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
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    When Obama refuses to call these heinous acts terrorism and ignores them, hoping they will go away, he is aiding and abetting our enemies.

    I think the reference is to various ACTS the President seems reluctant to identify as terrorist driven. Much like the terrorist act that took place at Ft Hood in 2009, and others, the obvious seems difficult to admit by the President
    If Obama is committing treason, why hasn't he been arrested or impeached?
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ah, intelligent and fair minded huh????? Feel good do ya now? I happen to be speaking both historically and presently. Btw, is everybody you disagree with short on fair mindedness and intelligence, just curious. Or just the ones that disagree with you on religion, or just me?
    I don't recall naming anybody who is short on fair mindedness and intelligence. But it might be something to think about that you thought that applied to you. IMO, those who are fair minded and intelligent, however, have something more than prejudice on which to base their accusations and denigration of another person's religion and/or beliefs.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Even if we would never ever been involved from when Churchill opened things up. It still wouldn't stop this Monte.



    Which doesn't count the Saud's United States of Islam. Nor the thought of a United States of Africa that Gadhafi was pushing.

    Nor the Shia's own version of the Caliphate with them Dominating and subjugating the Sunni.
    The Ottoman Empire was preferred to what we have.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Calling ISIS a "terrorist group" and "vicious death cult" isn't good enough? So what would change if he called various acts of violence an act of terror? Who gets to decide if it's an act of terror, anyway?
    Obviously the President thinks he gets to decide. They referred to the Ft. Hood massacre as an example of work place violence, if I am not mistaken.

    I think most people see a radical convert shouting "Allah Akbar" while killing 13 people and wounding 30 others as a terrorist act.

    As to what would change if it were labeled as such, I think the better question is why is so much effort spent to avoid calling such acts for what they are? If you don't think anything would change, why defend the mislabeling?

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't recall naming anybody who is short on fair mindedness and intelligence. But it might be something to think about that you thought that applied to you. IMO, those who are fair minded and intelligent, however, have something more than prejudice on which to base their accusations and denigration of another person's religion and/or beliefs.
    Then to whom are you referring when you say that intelligent and fair minded people agree with you? And from the Christians and Jews waring against Muslims in the ME, the crusades, and more recent, the scourge of pedaphilia in the Catholic Church, the brutality of Buddhists oppression of Muslims in the East, the scourge of religion is manifest.
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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If Obama is committing treason, why hasn't he been arrested or impeached?
    Ok. I looked at my comments, actually a couple of times, and then I looked at your post. Again, at least a couple of times.

    I have no idea what relationship my comments have to what you posted.

    Perhaps you could try again.

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I searched two pages of the BN forum, and couldn't find this story anywhere, and my apologies if it was already posted...But, come on folks....Give me a damned break! This would be like Churchill during WWII telling us that although the Nazi's were bad, that maybe they were justified for what the Moore's did centuries earlier....It's a load of crap!

    There is no equivalency....It's a false narrative that once again leads some to believe that Obama protects, and runs cover for terrorists.
    j-mac: The first paragraph of that story pretty much sums up the whole idea of what Obama was conveying.

    President Barack Obama on Thursday condemned those who seek to use religion as a rationale for carrying out violence around the world, declaring that "no god condones terror."

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    Re: Obama condemns those who seek to 'hijack religion'

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Ok. I looked at my comments, actually a couple of times, and then I looked at your post. Again, at least a couple of times.

    I have no idea what relationship my comments have to what you posted.

    Perhaps you could try again.
    My apologies!

    Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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