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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Jordan's Muslims are certainly helping to stop ISIS. That is what this thread is about. Sometimes I wonder if people even bother to read. They are so stuck on their ideas that any news that disputes them is thrown out the window. You are wrong and Muslims are proving it daily.
    Now. What about 5 years ago? What about 14 years ago when Muslims were flying airplanes into the twin towers? This has been going on for decades, where have they been? Oh wait, one of their own got killed, now they're going to do something...
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    I hear Jordan's military, although small, is very well trained and equipped. The air force seems especially good, and today it looks like its pilots are doing some whipping--55 jihadists killed, one report says. The best of luck to these brave men.

    I've seen reports for years that the U.S. has had special forces working with the Jordanians at a desert base in the northeast of their country. That's only about 250 miles from the jihadists' stronghold of Raqaa. These people--partly through the exodus of Syrian refugees they've caused--are a serious threat to Jordan. I think King Abdullah would be willing to put any facility in Jordan at our disposal for fighting these people.

    Here's something someone else may have some ideas on. Why not use air strikes or cruise missiles to destroy the facilities supplying cities like Raqqa and Mosul and Ramadi and Tikrit with electricity? I think the so-called friendly civilians there may be a little too comfortable. Maybe they need a very sharp warning about what further miseries might be in store for them--e.g. bombing of their water treatment and sewage facilities, blowing up bridges and road junctions in the city--if they don't do a lot more to kick these bastards out from their midst. I see quite a large, cheering crowd turned out the other day in Raqaa to watch the savage murder of that pilot shown on a large screen outdoors.

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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I read that. While what he says is true, it was a looooong time ago, and the timing wasn't good. I suppose, looking at it in the light most favorable to intentions, he was trying to avoid people attacking innocent muslims (which has happened in our country), and to remind people that most muslims, esp in our country, are not like that. Still, the timing was really bad. It's probably the professor in him, to analyze and think on things.
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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    When has there been one before? Queen Elizabeth stayed in London to be bombed, but since Poland's Sobieski and the Khans, who has taken up the sword before.

    I would follow this guy, Presidents and senators, governors and congressmen whose kids will never have to fight make war easily, always have. But a king who goes into battle will have a fine army.
    I admire him for it, but actually it's an irresponsible thing to do. He could get killed, leaving the country without his leadership in a dangerous time.
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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Did I just enter the ****ing twilight zone?

    What, in the name of anything does the crusades have to do with providing safety and security for a nation? At a prayer breakfast, where the nation looks for guidance and assurance, what is a 'leader' doing when he raises the country's own black eyes, "slavery", always "slavery" like there have been no other social ills. Not how the Us raped the natives of their land, he says nothing of Mai Lai in Vietnam, the Dresden bombing; all of which are worthy of mention if the crusades and slavery are to get top billing../.

    which is my way of saying why go there? The nation as been at war with Islamic terrorists since the early 1990's, all out war for 15 years that has not progressed but lost territory...why does he want the nation thinking about atrocities at all, and not "praying" for a resolution?

    This isn't about atrocities or even lives lost to him, but image, the image that he was right about there not being any terrorists any more; he needs to change their image now to save his own.
    He never said there are no more terrorists. Quite the opposite. He made the case, as the smartest people in the world have made, that you can't defeat terrorists by out and out war, since it's an ideology among varied groups of people that are forever recruiting, there is no country, there are no uniforms. It's a matter of using a carving knife to carve out the bad guys, work on winning hearts and minds, drones, and a combination of things. And that couldn't be done overnight.

    It was a terrible thing for him to say at this time (about the crusades and slavery and all), but he was making a true point so that people remember that this isn't the first or only group that has done heinous things. These are actions shared by our country and other westerners throughout history. Still, his timing was terrible and feeds into the stereotype that he's not tough on terrorism (which isn't true, BTW; he's done more to get rid of terrorists than the Bush admin. did).
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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygodmedia View Post
    why when truth is spoken you people get upset and make up crap? did not these wicked things happen?
    Yes, they did. A loooooong time ago. But not exactly this....burning a captured man who poses no threat. It's that the timing was bad, and he failed to point out the here and now of the ISIS actions towards innocent people.
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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Anyways... in the real world:

    ALNAHER NEWS – “While several news agencies reported this piece, the Jordanian government spokesman Mohammed Al-Momani denied these reports about the participation of His Majesty King Abdullah II air sorties to hit Daash terrorist organization. Momani stressed in a statement to “Al-Ghad Newspaper” that whatever was disseminated throughput news sites and social networking sites in this regard is unfounded.”

    Read more: UPDATE: GOVERNMENT DENIES — NOW THIS IS AWESOME: Jordanian King to fly bombing raids over ISIS » The Right Scoop -
    http://www.newsweek.com/jordan-king-...es-isis-304686

    The king told al-Kasasbeh’s father, Safi, that he would be “following up personally on Muath’s case.” Abdullah has received pilot training, so the report that he would be involved in airstrikes was not entirely unbelievable. Even so, his government quickly backtracked. Government spokesman Mohammad al-Momani told An-Nahar that the king would not fly a plane in the airstrikes. It remains unclear if the king will participate in another way in the operation.
    Jordan denies King Abdullah II will personally fly jets against ISIS - Iraqi News

    The Jordanian government has denied on Thursday, that Jordan’s King Abdullah II was going to take part in the combat missions by leading the air strikes against ISIS himself.
    Western media says one thing based on a single image... Jordan government tells Arab media says another...
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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Saying wrong doesn't make it wrong. That only works in conservative land.

    If you have a quote from him saying "what ISIS is doing isn't really that bad" then post it. Otherwise quit embarrassing yourself.
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    Oh yeah, totally defending them.
    Why does he need to offer a disclaimer about ancient deeds of Christians before he can condemn the current actions of radical Islam? Why does anyone?

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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I hear Jordan's military, although small, is very well trained and equipped. The air force seems especially good, and today it looks like its pilots are doing some whipping--55 jihadists killed, one report says. The best of luck to these brave men.
    It would have been nice if they had videos of the pilots facial expressions as they bombed ISIS. Seeing your fellow pilot tortured like that I would think bombing the crap out the maggots would bring a certain pleasure to them.

    Many have questioned if the Jordanians would follow through on their threats. I think they have a quite an impressive start so far.

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    Re: Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

    King Abdullah is a brilliant statesman, diplomat and leader. He's a rare jewel in global politics, a man respected by his people because he strives to serve them, not oppress them. He's been an excellent friend and ally to the west, but always looks to what his own people need without apparent interest in expanding his own personal power.

    I have admired him for decades. He has just displayed yet another reason why he's worthy of that admiration. Kudos to the king, who gave his people what they needed and always respects the unique tribal nuances in service to all Jordanians. A genuinely good man.

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