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    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Declaring the Internet critical for the nation, a top U.S. regulator on Wednesday proposed an unprecedented expansion of federal power to ensure providers don't block or slow web traffic for America's countless users.



    Oh, boy. Every American should be wary about that phrase, "unprecedented expansion of federal power". That usually means you just lost a little (or big) piece of liberty that was formerly protected by the Constitution.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    This issue sucks because the solution that works best for the people is not going to be the solution that is going to work for the government or the corporations. No matter how this plays out, we lose.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    I don't know... Of course, we need to watch out for the government not to expand it power too much, but in this particular case...
    I've been watching this debate for some time, and as far as I understand, for once in a while our government is doing the right thing. It restricts the companies from making the user to pay not only for the Internet access, but also for access to certain sites. Just imagine you were forced to pay extra if you wanted to access Youtube, for example. Or this forum...

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    This wouldn't have been an issue if other companies were allowed to lease existing lines or not prevented to run their own. We have local monopolies and they need to be treated as such. The ISPs are there own worst enemy here.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This wouldn't have been an issue if other companies were allowed to lease existing lines or not prevented to run their own. We have local monopolies and they need to be treated as such. The ISPs are there own worst enemy here.
    The Gov is the enemy here.

    Fast lanes have to exist for some data.
    What we will see is exceptions being made while we are all taxed for our internet as a utility.
    Hopefully those in power change the law of what the FCC can do with the internet.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The Gov is the enemy here.

    Fast lanes have to exist for some data.
    What we will see is exceptions being made while we are all taxed for our internet as a utility.
    Hopefully those in power change the law of what the FCC can do with the internet.
    If we had real competition in the market, then consumers would have options beyond being screwed or no high speed internet. That is the current situation that exists for most users and that is an unreasonable choice.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    This wouldn't have been an issue if other companies were allowed to lease existing lines or not prevented to run their own. We have local monopolies and they need to be treated as such. The ISPs are there own worst enemy here.
    That is because they can only hang so many wires on the telephone polls before they snap. That will change with fiber giving people the ability to have multiple providers over the same line without having to do the licensing with the monopoly holder that happens with things like land line telephone service.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    That is because they can only hang so many wires on the telephone polls before they snap. That will change with fiber giving people the ability to have multiple providers over the same line without having to do the licensing with the monopoly holder that happens with things like land line telephone service.
    There is plenty of room in the ground for a ditch witch. that's how our cabling is here, almost all in the ground.

    but regardless, we are past that point now. The market is what it is, and because it is this way, it needs to be treated as a utility.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    There is plenty of room in the ground for a ditch witch. that's how our cabling is here, almost all in the ground.

    but regardless, we are past that point now. The market is what it is, and because it is this way, it needs to be treated as a utility.
    Ours is run overhead on the same poles that carry the electric and telephone lines, though the new fiber network is being put in the ground.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    If the preservation of net neutrality can be taken at face value then this is of course excellent news for everyone (except for isps, of course, but **** them).

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