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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I don't really and fully understand why this is such an issue. Utilities will often have price and supply differentiation. So why the excitement here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I don't want to pay for access to dozens of sports sites to be able to come here to debate politics. Like cable. Nor do I want to wait dial up times for a page to open here.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You don't have to wait for you shower water do you?
    No. Because its a utility and they're not allowed to make you wait unless you pay extra.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
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    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    WASHINGTON (AP) Declaring the Internet critical for the nation, a top U.S. regulator on Wednesday proposed an unprecedented expansion of federal power to ensure providers don't block or slow web traffic for America's countless users.



    Oh, boy. Every American should be wary about that phrase, "unprecedented expansion of federal power". That usually means you just lost a little (or big) piece of liberty that was formerly protected by the Constitution.
    Yeah like "Patriot Act" and "No Child Left Behind". Conservatives were really terrified about the obvious "unprecedented expansions of federal powers"
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Yeah like "Patriot Act" and "No Child Left Behind". Conservatives were really terrified about the obvious "unprecedented expansions of federal powers"
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    That is because they can only hang so many wires on the telephone polls before they snap. That will change with fiber giving people the ability to have multiple providers over the same line without having to do the licensing with the monopoly holder that happens with things like land line telephone service.
    The majority of ISPs out there already lease space on the existing lines for their customers. Every copper line around here belongs to Verizon. Any ISP that is not Verizon has to pay to use the copper and provide service to their customers. Nobody is putting up new copper lines, anymore than they'd be putting up new fiber lines. The ones who incurred the cost to put up the existing lines deserve to be compensated for the use of those lines. The only solution is to nationalize the lines and have the government be in charge of repairs, which honestly, Verizon is slow enough, the government would take forever, or to just continue to do business as usual. Find a better option.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
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    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    WASHINGTON (AP) Declaring the Internet critical for the nation, a top U.S. regulator on Wednesday proposed an unprecedented expansion of federal power to ensure providers don't block or slow web traffic for America's countless users.



    Oh, boy. Every American should be wary about that phrase, "unprecedented expansion of federal power". That usually means you just lost a little (or big) piece of liberty that was formerly protected by the Constitution.
    Ive said it before, but people wont believe it till they experience it. Getting the govt involved in the internet will result in less freedom, not more. Just one more reason states needs to go independent.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    WASHINGTON (AP) Declaring the Internet critical for the nation, a top U.S. regulator on Wednesday proposed an unprecedented expansion of federal power to ensure providers don't block or slow web traffic for America's countless users.



    Oh, boy. Every American should be wary about that phrase, "unprecedented expansion of federal power". That usually means you just lost a little (or big) piece of liberty that was formerly protected by the Constitution.
    This is a picture of a Japanese internment camp in Tule Lake in Utah. I think we can all agree that they would empathize with your plight of being forced to endure the continued convenience of network neutrality due to unprecedented expansion of Federal power.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The majority of ISPs out there already lease space on the existing lines for their customers. Every copper line around here belongs to Verizon. Any ISP that is not Verizon has to pay to use the copper and provide service to their customers. Nobody is putting up new copper lines, anymore than they'd be putting up new fiber lines. The ones who incurred the cost to put up the existing lines deserve to be compensated for the use of those lines. The only solution is to nationalize the lines and have the government be in charge of repairs, which honestly, Verizon is slow enough, the government would take forever, or to just continue to do business as usual. Find a better option.
    A lot also has to do with right of ways. My city has rights of way that the companies sublease to run their wires over those lines and the city spends a fortune maintaining those rights of way, so everybody who uses them should have to pay. In the rural county, however, the county itself does not own a lot of rights of way for that sort of stuff. Somebody in the past, present, or future paid/pays property owners to run those lines through, over, or under their property and whoever owns them has the right to sublease as a way of recovering those expenses. It is not as big of a deal in the city, but outside of it, the land records overflow with these rights of way agreements.

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