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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You're on the wrong track. Think of the frog that is slowly boiled to death. Bye the time he realizes things have gone terribly wrong, it's too late.
    Slippery slope is called a fallacy for a reason.

    If lightbulbs are the best you've got, we're a long way from tyranny.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    The best solution is getting rid of the government created nightmare and allowing a free market to exist. But that isn't on the table unfortunately, so the next best thing is to regulate it so it's government-granted privileges cannot further reduce competition.
    The lesser of two evils is still evil.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The lesser of two evils is still evil.
    That's a nice platitude, but doesn't change anything. If net neutrality does not get encoded into law, the political and corporate elite are not suddenly going to say "you know what, let's end the special privileges for the telecommunications industry and make it a free market." Only a fool would believe such nonsense. The result will be the greater of two evils, when progress could have been made towards a lesser one.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamaris View Post
    I don't know... Of course, we need to watch out for the government not to expand it power too much, but in this particular case...
    I've been watching this debate for some time, and as far as I understand, for once in a while our government is doing the right thing. It restricts the companies from making the user to pay not only for the Internet access, but also for access to certain sites. Just imagine you were forced to pay extra if you wanted to access Youtube, for example. Or this forum...
    This doesn't save you from paying for Youtube, this will leave the ISPs having to issue blanket cost increases to cover their lack of QoS controls which are the bedrock of consumer internet cost controls.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Slippery slope is called a fallacy for a reason.

    If lightbulbs are the best you've got, we're a long way from tyranny.
    It's not the light bulbs, it's the fact the the federal government is all the way down into our lives so much as to ban a light bulb. The fact that you are pointing out that light bulbs so insignificant actually bolsters the case.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Obviously you've never had to be a satellite ISP user. Removing throttling would increase my monthly bill by 10 times. No thanks. I'd rather manage the throttling.
    So you're saying to save money you accept the throttled speed, because higher speed would be way too expensive.

    But is that expense based on the costs of the system? OR on the company that owns it wanting to make more profit?
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's not the light bulbs, it's the fact the the federal government is all the way down into our lives so much as to ban a light bulb. The fact that you are pointing out that light bulbs so insignificant actually bolsters the case.

    You are the frog.
    No, the fact that you are pointing out light bulbs bolsters my case. If you had something real, you wouldn't be talking about lightbulbs.

    Energy efficiency standards are a reasonable method for ensuring the public has continued access to reliable, affordable electrical power without requiring massive infrastructure upgrades, and that's why Republicans signed the light bulb thing into law.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This doesn't save you from paying for Youtube, this will leave the ISPs having to issue blanket cost increases to cover their lack of QoS controls which are the bedrock of consumer internet cost controls.

    QoS controls are still allowed.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, the fact that you are pointing out light bulbs bolsters my case. If you had something real, you wouldn't be talking about lightbulbs.

    Energy efficiency standards are a reasonable method for ensuring the public has continued access to reliable, affordable electrical power without requiring massive infrastructure upgrades, and that's why Republicans signed the light bulb thing into law.
    You are not getting the point. The fact that you are dwelling on "energy efficiency standards" proves that you are missing the big picture. The important picture. Energy efficiency is irrelevant.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    That's a nice platitude, but doesn't change anything. If net neutrality does not get encoded into law, the political and corporate elite are not suddenly going to say "you know what, let's end the special privileges for the telecommunications industry and make it a free market." Only a fool would believe such nonsense. The result will be the greater of two evils, when progress could have been made towards a lesser one.
    It doesnt change that Im right. This is a debate forum, not a decision forum. I dont have to be realistic. I can be idealistic. Govt sponsored monopolies are wrong, and so is govt control. I dont have to endorse or vote for either.

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