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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The federal government, at this point in our history is the greatest threat Americans face. Banks, or for that matter corporations cannot tax you, cannot force you to buy or use them. And they cannot put you in prison.
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    I'm not an anti-tax person. The corporations and banks legally swindle people out of more money than any collected taxes.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Nonsense. You have that backward. We have a fascistic federal government that controls nearly every facet of our lives, working and leisure, through hundreds of thousands of regulations.
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    You're grossly mistaken but what else is new?

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think you'll be fine without the liberty to throttle network traffic based on who pays more.

    In fact, we'll all be better off. Net neutrality is a barrier to censorship and a barrier to the stifling of innovation.
    Net neutrality is only for ISPs. THe govt will not remain neutral, and you have less power over them, than you do a company.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's not what net neutrality is. That might be something they are trying to pass, but that isn't net neutrality.
    Thats my point.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How do you believe this massive new federal bureaucracy will be paid for? Who knows what they will be. If you want an ideal take a walk through an itemized phone bill. You will find many small fees and taxes. They are chopped up so you will be less aware of the total government take. You will be paying for the minders, the busybodies and the Internet Police.
    There is no massive new federal bureaucracy being created, and there is nothing that states Internet providers will have to pay a single new fee.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    for example



    My cable bill already has $30 in taxes on it.
    I am against a tax on broadband. That tax proposal, however, would apply regardless of whether net neutrality is adopted or not. If you are worried about a tax on the Internet, you should be fighting proposals like the above instead of net neutrality.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I am against a tax on broadband. That tax proposal, however, would apply regardless of whether net neutrality is adopted or not. If you are worried about a tax on the Internet, you should be fighting proposals like the above instead of net neutrality.
    Im fighting all govt involvement in the internet because we didnt give them the power to regulate communications, and because I believe they will make it worse, both in quality and cost.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im fighting all govt involvement in the internet because we didnt give them the power to regulate communications, and because I believe they will make it worse, both in quality and cost.
    Net neutrality is the de facto way the Internet has always been. It seems to have worked out tremendously well for us. I don't know why you are against government stopping unnatural, non-free market telecommunications monopolies from changing the way the Internet works (something they couldn't do if they competed on a free market) at the expense of competitors like Netflix and Hulu.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Yeah, the government wouldn't get so deep into our everyday lives as to tell us what kind of light bulbs we can produce or what toilet we can buy, right?
    Inefficient lightbulbs strain the powergrid further and increase energy consumption which brings more pollution. Buying slightly more efficient lightbulbs is not a major burden upon you, particularly since you save money over the life of the bulb.

    I'm not familiar with toilet regulations. What type of toilet do you want to buy but are unable to?
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Net neutrality is only for ISPs. THe govt will not remain neutral, and you have less power over them, than you do a company.
    I have more power over the government than I do Comcast, actually.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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