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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This is about as dumb a request as I have ever seen. Why don't you give me examples of innovation in the electrical utilities field where the government has a long history of regulation. The utilities do not do anything they are not told to do by the government regulators.

    Walk me through this or admit that you are an authoritarian statist.
    Answer my question and I'll answer yours. The claim is that this stifles innovation. Demonstrate this for us poor Statists.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How do you believe this massive new federal bureaucracy will be paid for? Who knows what they will be. If you want an ideal take a walk through an itemized phone bill. You will find many small fees and taxes. They are chopped up so you will be less aware of the total government take. You will be paying for the minders, the busybodies and the Internet Police.
    How do you know we are getting a "massive new federal bureacracy?"
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That is because you are an authoritarian statist.
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    Wrong. It's because the REAL enemy of the US is not the government, Islamics, communists, Tea Party or religious right ---- It's the banks and corporations.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    You already are. You are not only paying your internet service provider for access to dozens of sports sites, you are paying it for access to the entirety of accessible websites, in order to come here to debate politics. You are not just paying for debatepolitics.com.
    Yes, at all more or less the same speed.

    And you know I'm talking about "tiers" like on cable. Where sites get bundled together. You don't get all of them unless you pay extra. "Like politics? Get our political board bundle at high speed for only $20 extra a month. (Otherwise you can enjoy them at 56k second for FREE!)
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why do people assume net neutrality is some massive expansion... or even expansion at all? Net Neutrality can and should be enforced by the businesses and users that subscribe to the service, and any breaches in Net Neutrality can be handled via lawsuits. It's not as if some "Net Neutrality Agency" would need to be created.
    Its not just net neutrality, its classifying Internet as a public utility, using a wireless act meant for radio, which gives the FCC a lot of power. Like with TV they will be able to regulate content.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    What new taxes and fees are you referring to?
    for example

    The Federal Communications Commission is eyeing a proposal to tax broadband Internet service.

    The move would funnel money to the Connect America Fund, a subsidy the agency created last year to expand Internet access.

    FCC eyes tax on Internet service | TheHill
    My cable bill already has $30 in taxes on it.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    They already govern by proxy through the major search and email providers - admittedly pluck people's cell phones and all else. So really, this is just making legal everything they've already done.

    At the same time - they're considering letting other countries keep after domain names and proxy servers. . . so ? It's like they're making decisions that will pull things in opposite directions.
    I'm just concerned about losing more liberties to the federal government. You never get them back. At some point, we won't be able to stop them.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Wrong. It's because the REAL enemy of the US is not the government, Islamics, communists, Tea Party or religious right ---- It's the banks and corporations.
    I would say it is more the banks & government working together.
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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I would say it is more the banks & government working together.
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    The banks and corporations already own this government.

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    Re: No fast or slow lanes for Internet? New rules proposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I'm just concerned about losing more liberties to the federal government. You never get them back. At some point, we won't be able to stop them.
    I think you'll be fine without the liberty to throttle network traffic based on who pays more.

    In fact, we'll all be better off. Net neutrality is a barrier to censorship and a barrier to the stifling of innovation.
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