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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The justification for killing civilians never ends.
    You're right. Putin doesn't care at all about the mayhem he has caused.


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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually, a bit before that with the US involvement in the tragic events of Maiden Square and the support of the Nazi.
    um wasn't the pro Russian president attacking his own people and trying to curb their freedom to even protest the tragedy?

    also the rebels who kind of abandoned protest for armed rebellion in order to tear their country apart and give parts of it to a foreign power that they were loyal to all along while violently crushing local dissent seems tragic to

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    sounds reasonable

    I don't think any one else would try it though

    so nukes or no the Russian people seem to be the only ones who could back him into a corner
    I dont think they are the only ones who could back Putin into a corner I think they are the only ones who should remove him.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The justification for killing civilians never ends.
    for either side

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Crimea is very legally occupied by Russia!!!!
    How is invading and annexing part of another country legal?
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No it doesn't make any sense at all.

    My worry is that there appears to be an element here in the US that feels that the US needs to be giving a significant amount of military support to Ukraine in it's efforts. They will accuse the President of being weak if he does not do so. Such charges of weakness could lead to U.S. involvement to the extent that it becomes our war. At that point, it will result in a nuclear war because Russia simply cannot compete with U.S. conventional forces. At a certain point, neither side can afford to lose. That is my worry.
    I think the Russians could do quite well in a war fought literally next door.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Ukraine is not going to invade Russia, they merely have to stop Russia from destroying Ukraine. Same way The Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan and USA lost in Vietnam.
    Ukraine is not going to be able to do jack with Russia militarily without direct U.S. military intervention. Militarily, without direct U.S. intervention, Russia can indeed take Ukraine. THAT IS FACT. UKRAINE IS NOT AFGHANISTAN NOR VIETNAM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    It would be stupid for the Russian people not to remove Putin. Something that is inevitable, hopefully not before it is too late.
    What is stupid is for the U.S. to think that arming Ukraine will cause the Russian people to remove Putin. They will simply rally around the flag. Man what a stupid idea.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Ukraine is not going to be able to do jack with Russia militarily without direct U.S. military intervention. Militarily, without direct U.S. intervention, Russia can indeed take Ukraine. THAT IS FACT. UKRAINE IS NOT AFGHANISTAN NOR VIETNAM.
    Putin cannot afford to occupy all of Ukraine. He can barely afford Crimea.


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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Like Hitler? Then the doo-doo will hit the fan. No avoiding it.
    I don't give a damn about that stupid Hilter rhetoric. Hell that's my money that's going to pay for that crap, AND IF IT TURNS INTO A NUCLEAR WAR MY CHILDREN, INCLUDING MY NINE YEAR OLD SON WILL DIE BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID THEORY THAT THE U.S. IS GOING TO CONTAIN RUSSIA PARTLY BY USING UKRAINE.

    Over and above that, I am sick and tired of people trying to use the U.S. to fight their stupid little wars. Let them fight their own wars with their own money, own weapons, and own men.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    I think the Russians could do quite well in a war fought literally next door.
    Exactly. That's why it's stupid to try to compare it to the U.S. fighting in Vietnam. If they want to fight, let them do it with their own men, weapons and money. Why the hell do I and other U.S. taxpayers have to help pay for that stupid crap. It's like everyone wants to U.S. to fight their little stupid ass wars.

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