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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    a nuclear war would be for both sides

    but fighting Russia makes sense if Putin just wants to do whatever he pleases with the world

    the destruction of Russia is probably not something that pleases him

    but that would be a clear result of a nuclear war
    Unfortunately he may start one in a last ditch attempt to hang on to power.
    I cant see any way Putin can leave power and live. When faced with personal destruction he may opt for world destruction.
    Lets hope the Russian people remove him before that happens
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Unfortunately he may start one in a last ditch attempt to hang on to power.
    I cant see any way Putin can leave power and live. When faced with personal destruction he may opt for world destruction.
    Lets hope the Russian people remove him before that happens
    would we even try to kill him or over throw him

    seems like that would take a lot more effort then containing him and with a lot more risk because of exactly what you say

    a popular uprising would be just as likely to set him off and if he was that crazy I don't think he would voluntarily hand over power either

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What if he doesn't stop?
    Like Hitler? Then the doo-doo will hit the fan. No avoiding it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Are we, the U.S., going to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine? That would be the epitome of stupid.
    No one has suggested US boots on the ground and Ukraine has not asked for any.

    All they have asked for is some modernized defensive capabilities. You do realize that their military is using arms made in Soviet times? Much of it doesn't even work anymore. For example, none of their military communications are encrypted and the Russians can listen-in at any time. What nation could possibly defend itself against a super-power using such outdated equipment?

    The onus here is on Russia to cease and desist and let Ukraine solve its problems without Russian forces on its soil.


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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The war drums started back in February 2014 with the Russian invasion of Crimea.

    Russia's neighbors, including fellow EEU members Belarus and Kazakhstan, are nervous and rightfully so.
    Actually, a bit before that with the US involvement in the tragic events of Maiden Square and the support of the Nazi.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    would we even try to kill him or over throw him

    seems like that would take a lot more effort then containing him and with a lot more risk because of exactly what you say

    a popular uprising would be just as likely to set him off and if he was that crazy I don't think he would voluntarily hand over power either
    No I dont think anyone other than the Russian poeple should remove Putin.
    As to a popular uprising, problem is unlike an external invasion he would have no clear target to nuke and it is doubtful that his orders to nuke fellow Russians would be obeyed.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually, a bit before that with the US involvement in the tragic events of Maiden Square and the support of the Nazi.
    Yup. Cookies are a huge involvement.


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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Yup. Cookies are a huge involvement.
    I was thinking brownies.


    The ongoing crisis in Ukraine has seen a significant loss of life. Over 2,000 people have been killed since Kiev launched it's “anti-terrorist” operation in April.

    President Poroshenko has received near unconditional backing from NATO, the United States and the European Union, despite the widespread reports of civilian casualties in the eastern regions.

    This support continues despite recent press coverage highlighting the uncomfortable presence of far-right and neo-Nazi groups fighting alongside the Ukrainian army in the eastern provinces, raising the possibility of Kiev's tolerance of fascism.


    Crimea is very legally occupied by Russia!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    No I dont think anyone other than the Russian poeple should remove Putin.
    As to a popular uprising, problem is unlike an external invasion he would have no clear target to nuke and it is doubtful that his orders to nuke fellow Russians would be obeyed.
    sounds reasonable

    I don't think any one else would try it though

    so nukes or no the Russian people seem to be the only ones who could back him into a corner

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The ongoing crisis in Ukraine has seen a significant loss of life. Over 2,000 people have been killed since Kiev launched it's “anti-terrorist” operation in April.
    And none of this would have occurred if Russian forces had not crossed the Ukraine border.


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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    And none of this would have occurred if Russian forces had not crossed the Ukraine border.
    The justification for killing civilians never ends.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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