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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    and the key to that is any amount of rational self interest on the part of Russia
    This is just blame game crap. Again, I don't care about some stupid finger pointing on an issue of this magnitude.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I hope Putin AND the militaristic neocon influenced wing of U.S. foreign policy both come to their senses. Again, I don't care about a stupid blame game, I care about it not starting in the first place.
    Putin is the instigator of all this, NATO is reacting, the only other option they have is to do a Neville Chamberlain and cave into Putin, the results of such a strategy is war on less favorable terms.
    Backing down from a bully only encourages the bully.
    Putin MUST be stopped. Hopefully by the Russian people as that is how war will be avoided.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Putin is the instigator of all this, NATO is reacting, the only other option they have is to do a Neville Chamberlain and cave into Putin, the results of such a strategy is war on less favorable terms.
    Backing down from a bully only encourages the bully.
    Putin MUST be stopped. Hopefully by the Russian people as that is how war will be avoided.
    What if he doesn't stop? Are we, the U.S., going to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine? That would be the epitome of stupid.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What if he doesn't stop? Are we, the U.S., going to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine? That would be the epitome of stupid.
    I dont think the USA will fight in Ukraine but they probably will support Ukraine with military aid if Putin doesnt stop. Unless of course Putin expands the war beyond Ukraine. Then he is toast.
    Again best solution is for the Russian people to overthrow Putin.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't understand.
    most people don't want to wreck all of their **** with nukes

    to do that on purpose some 1 with control of nukes would have to not feel the same way

    or be faced with annihilation if they don't use them

    Russia is not faced with annihilation even if its beaten back

    so if he powers that be over their are like you no nuclear war

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    This is just blame game crap. Again, I don't care about some stupid finger pointing on an issue of this magnitude.
    except for the complete lack of blame totally

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I dont think the USA will fight in Ukraine but they probably will support Ukraine with military aid if Putin doesnt stop.
    Again best solution is for the Russian people to overthrow Putin.
    Ukraine will not be able to defeat Russia with military aid from the U.S. alone. The only way Ukraine can do it is with direct military intervention from the U.S. THAT IS A FACT. The only thing it will do is escalate the conflict, risk deeper U.S. involvement, and make the whole thing worse.

    Again, it would be the epitome of stupid for the U.S. to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What if he doesn't stop? Are we, the U.S., going to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine? That would be the epitome of stupid.
    a nuclear war would be for both sides

    but fighting Russia makes sense if Putin just wants to do whatever he pleases with the world

    the destruction of Russia is probably not something that pleases him

    but that would be a clear result of a nuclear war

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Ukraine will not be able to defeat Russia with military aid from the U.S. alone. The only way Ukraine can do it is with direct military intervention from the U.S. THAT IS A FACT. The only thing it will do is escalate the conflict, risk deeper U.S. involvement, and make the whole thing worse.

    Again, it would be the epitome of stupid for the U.S. to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine.
    Ukraine is not going to invade Russia, they merely have to stop Russia from destroying Ukraine. Same way The Soviet Union lost in Afghanistan and USA lost in Vietnam.

    It would be stupid for the Russian people not to remove Putin. Something that is inevitable, hopefully not before it is too late.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Ukraine will not be able to defeat Russia with military aid from the U.S. alone. The only way Ukraine can do it is with direct military intervention from the U.S. THAT IS A FACT. The only thing it will do is escalate the conflict, risk deeper U.S. involvement, and make the whole thing worse.

    Again, it would be the epitome of stupid for the U.S. to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine.
    why according to you we can beat them and we don't even have to bother with regime change or nation building

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