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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbazorkzog View Post
    Okay well, I'll concede that Putin may not be behind it, but they are there, they do exist, and they pose a threat, however insignificant it may be. (And yes, the EU and US are coming to a head over Germany's economic reliance upon Russia - stone cold fact). Germany
    The "stone cold fact" is that Germany is in no way economically Reliant on Russia. It does import a lot of energy from Russia, but that is going down. The countries that depend most on Russia for energy are those that are most anti-Russian in the current crisis.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    In some ways, yes (read the article section) which may not be a big issue but an issue nevertheless preventing a united front against Russia. (I would like to point out that Italy has also been quite vocal in the anti-sanctions pulpit.)
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbazorkzog View Post
    In some ways, yes (read the article section) which may not be a big issue but an issue nevertheless preventing a united front against Russia. (I would like to point out that Italy has also been quite vocal in the anti-sanctions pulpit.)
    The fact is that Italy (and all other EU countries) have joined the US in taking sanctions (pretty stupid ones in my opinion, but that is another discussion) against Russia.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleming View Post
    The fact is that Italy (and all other EU countries) have joined the US in taking sanctions (pretty stupid ones in my opinion, but that is another discussion) against Russia.
    This is true to an extent, and you don't think ANY leader in the EU feels the same way. :P With that I bid you goodnight.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbazorkzog View Post
    And you don't think ANY leader in the EU feels the same way? :P With that I bid you goodnight.
    Goodnight.

    What "leaders" "feel" is less important than what they do.

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wrong doing isn't to be excused. I'm not advocating that. You and I have a disagreement on the matter of Russia's response to US interference in Ukrainian politics in the fall of 2013. My other point would be that even if we did agree that Russia was the provocateur in this crisis, until the US dispenses with its own provocative foreign policy, we haven't credibility in raising hell when we perceive others engaged in the same activity. This isn't just past behavior either. The US has more covert "operations" being conducted by special ops forces around the world, then at any other time.
    Putin was the one interfering in Ukraine.
    DUH!!!!!!!!
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Putin was the one interfering in Ukraine.
    DUH!!!!!!!!
    Quag! So was the US and European countries, DUH!!!!!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Quag! So was the US and European countries, DUH!!!!!!!!
    BS stop lying your ass off!!!
    Political overtures and negotiations are not interfering it is normal.
    Bribing coercing and secretly invading are. In other words what Putin is and has done.
    DUH!!!!!
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    BS stop lying your ass off!!!
    Political overtures and negotiations are not interfering it is normal.
    Bribing coercing and secretly invading are. In other words what Putin is and has done.
    DUH!!!!!
    Putin's helping the eastern Ukrainians fight for self determination and autonomy, something the hypocrites support elsewhere.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    The world must be so exciting for libertarians and alt-righters. Everyone is out to get you, World War III is always just around the corner, and the fiat dollar oligarchy consolidates itself more each passing day.

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