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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Still waiting for you to quote me suggesting that they did.
    When you tried to infer that what Putin is doing is OK because the west has done similar things in the past.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think I made myself clear when I informed you that I disagree with your characterisation of the events in Ukraine over the last year and a half.
    Yes you are using the Putin fairyland version of events and I am using the reality version.
    I already figures that out.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Once again, the Russian 'aggression' in the Ukraine is - in theory - to support a region who voted overwhelmingly to join Russia.

    Ukraine crisis: Donetsk region asks to join Russia | World news | The Guardian

    A similar situation happened in the Crimea...they overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in an official (though flawed) referendum.

    Russia are no saints in this, but neither is Kiev/the West.


    As for Russia threatening Eastern Europe? If regions in that area have referendums (hopefully, UN monitored) and vote to join Russia...then I see nothing wrong with them joining Russia.
    I think NATO AND Russian forces should stay out of non-NATO countries like Latvia, for example.
    Only Russian agression occured before the votes.
    I agree that Russia and NATO should stay out of it, only Putin has decided he wants to annex part of Ukraine and wishfull thinking doesnt stop a tyrant.
    BTW Latvia is a NATO member
    http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    When you tried to infer that what Putin is doing is OK because the west has done similar things in the past.
    I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Western/US (and your own) condemnation of Putin for doing exactly the same thing. That's the rub.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of Western/US (and your own) condemnation of Putin for doing exactly the same thing. That's the rub.
    Only he`s not in fact he`s not doing the same thing as the west.
    The west isnt secretly invading and annexing parts of other coutries.
    Though even if they were It still wouldnt make Putins action OK.
    As to hypocrosy, it would only be hypocritical if I didnt condemn the west when if they do the same thing. You have yet to show me where the west has removed insignia of their troops and then sent them in to annex parts of another country.
    When you do so you can rest assured I will condemn that as well.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Yes you are using the Putin fairyland version of events and I am using the reality version.
    I already figures that out.
    You can figures (sic) out whatever makes you feel better about the atrocities you have been in support of!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Only he`s not in fact he`s not doing the same thing as the west.
    The west isnt secretly invading and annexing parts of other coutries.
    Though even if they were It still wouldnt make Putins action OK.
    As to hypocrosy, it would only be hypocritical if I didnt condemn the west when if they do the same thing. You have yet to show me where the west has removed insignia of their troops and then sent them in to annex parts of another country.
    When you do so you can rest assured I will condemn that as well.
    Good gawd, if its so freaking secret, tell me why you and I are talking about it. I can tell you one thing sir, if Russia was instigating things in Mexico City that were causing unrest on our borders, we would be responding in kind. Take your open hypocrisy elsewhere. At the moment, Putin is doing nothing differently then any other country would do given the same circumstances.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You can figures (sic) out whatever makes you feel better about the atrocities you have been in support of!!!
    Silly strawman. You are the one who is in support of Putins attacks.
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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Silly strawman. You are the one who is in support of Putins attacks.
    And you don't even know what a strawman is!! You've been exposed as a fraud and a hypocrite, see ya.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: NATO to bolster forces in eastern Europe against threat from Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Good gawd, if its so freaking secret, tell me why you and I are talking about it. I can tell you one thing sir, if Russia was instigating things in Mexico City that were causing unrest on our borders, we would be responding in kind. Take your open hypocrisy elsewhere. At the moment, Putin is doing nothing differently then any other country would do given the same circumstances.
    BS!
    America isnt the one causing the problems in Ukraine, Putin is. Your enrtire view is skewed by your love of an evil dictator.
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