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bicycleman said:
We have blockaded other countries, but none led to war. Might it be because Japan was allied with Germany and unwisely thought they could flex their muscles against what they thought a weaker country? Again, America did not draw first blood. A blockade is not first blood nor is it an attack. You need to go back to school or learn to read with some understanding before you copy and paste incorrect data.
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Now your changing the argument. Again you wish to justify the US confronting Japan, have at it. But that's not the point I'm making. What I'm pointing to is the fact that FDR and Co. were quietly provoking a Japanese attack to legitimise an American response in order to change public opinion which was HUGELY (80% opposed) in the camp of opposition to US involvement in another war. In an effort to deceive the American people into supporting a US entrance into the SECOND world war, the American people were led to believe that the US was going about our business not bothering a soul, and encouraging peace in the WESTPAC, and out of nowhere, and for no reason at all, Japan bitch slapped us!!!!! Sorry if it makes you feel better about incinerating Japanese babies with nuclear bombs, but it doesn't change the facts, I hope you understand that. Oh and btw, a blockade is considered an act of war.
 
bicycleman said:
I always get a kick out of the left, who constantly accuses America of being an imperialistic nation always trying to take over other countries under the guise of bringing democracy to them. America froze Japanese assets because of the Japanese imperialistic expansion into Indochina. I suppose in your ideas it is okay for every other country to be imperialistic and take over weaker countries. I guarantee you, Japan was not bringing democracy to Indochina, nor was it seeking the betterment of Indochinese. Far from it. Talk about imperialism, Japan was full of it.
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Lol. How often do you see the left criticising Obama's foreign policy???? I like how your ignoring the McCullom memo that spelled out the plan of provocation, which ended up being precisely what was executed, and worked. Continue in your self denial, I know that you will.
 
Montecresto said:
Now your changing the argument. Again you wish to justify the US confronting Japan, have at it. But that's not the point I'm making. What I'm pointing to is the fact that FDR and Co. were quietly provoking a Japanese attack to legitimise an American response in order to change public opinion which was HUGELY (80% opposed) in the camp of opposition to US involvement in another war. In an effort to deceive the American people into supporting a US entrance into the SECOND world war, the American people were led to believe that the US was going about our business not bothering a soul, and encouraging peace in the WESTPAC, and out of nowhere, and for no reason at all, Japan bitch slapped us!!!!! Sorry if it makes you feel better about incinerating Japanese babies with nuclear bombs, but it doesn't change the facts, I hope you understand that. Oh and btw, a blockade is considered an act of war.
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Perhaps I misunderstand--are you calling Pearl Harbor a "bitch-slap"?
 
Montecresto said:
Lol. How often do you see the left criticising Obama's foreign policy???? I like how your ignoring the McCullom memo that spelled out the plan of provocation, which ended up being precisely what was executed, and worked. Continue in your self denial, I know that you will.
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You're ignoring the fact that Japan was exercising its imperialistic muscles with the intention of taking over another country, something you despise when you even conceive the notion that America might be doing the same thing.
 
bicycleman said:
You're ignoring the fact that Japan was exercising its imperialistic muscles with the intention of taking over another country, something you despise when you even conceive the notion that America might be doing the same thing.
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No, I don't miss that, I'm well aware of what Japan was doing in China and what designs she had on places farther south. But what has that to do with the fact that FDR provoked her to attack us???
 
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