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Just saw where Jordan has executed two prisoners in response to the Jordanian pilot's murder.
I honestly don't believe that ISIS give a **** if these guys are executed. In fact, I suspect that they HOPE they are executed because you are right in that it is a language they understand. They understand that their brothers in arms will die as martyrs and get 72 virgins.
I don't know what the answer is. I just know that we are dealing with an enemy who does not value human life.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064272649 said:Just saw where Jordan has executed two prisoners in response to the Jordanian pilot's murder.
AMMAN, Jordan — A Jordanian government spokesman says Jordan has executed two prisoners, including a would-be female suicide bomber from al-Qaida.
The executions at dawn Wednesday came just hours after Islamic State militants released a video that purportedly showed a captured Jordanian fighter pilot being burned alive in a cage.
Jordan vowed a swift and lethal response.
Government spokesman Mohammed al-Momani said that two prisoners, Sajida al-Rishawi and Ziad al-Karbouli, were executed early Wednesday.
Often Arabic leaders speak in blown up rhetoric but this time Jordan is doing more than just talking.
A Jordan military leader said there would be a "earth shaking" response.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064272649 said:Just saw where Jordan has executed two prisoners in response to the Jordanian pilot's murder.
I don't think for a second that ISIS would care about the execution of terrorists held by Jordan. In fact they will celebrate those executed as martyrs to jihad and favored of Allah,....and use it for more recruiting.
Only if you do it to innocent women and children for not converting to Christianity.
Well I disagree.....as it depends on how they are executed.
Since the Jordanians went with Hanging. You're Right.....now ISIS dont care.
Heya M.A :2wave: Yeah I had seen it also.
They were put to death by Hanging about half hour ago. I don't think killing them this way got any point across to ISIS.
Well I disagree.....as it depends on how they are executed.
Since the Jordanians went with Hanging. You're Right.....now ISIS dont care.
Once again we are equating madness with rational thinking....
I doubt since bombing them and burning them out of their homes with drones hasn't deterred them, I doubt public executions would.
And I doubt you will win any converts, it is hard to argue 'democracy' and 'freedom' are better for anyone when you are hanging and boiling people alive in pig oil.
I'm having a hard time myself after that one to be frank.
But it did reunite the Jordanian people.
And it showed the rest of the Middle Easterners how to step up and deal with these murdering terrorists.
Please stay with me tonight bro and don't go BO peeping on me.
I'm way to the right of you on this matter as my inner NeoCon has reemerged thinking of my dearly departed Dad .
Those feelings aren't NeoCon, they're human. Evil is evil no matter which side of the aisle you're standing on.Let me go a step further and really piss people off.
I'm tired of the political arguing over GITMO--but more the waste of money there.
Time to execute those that are left at GITMO and knock off the political bull****.
My NeoCon feelings rarely come out like this--blame that on me being an Air Force brat my first 13 years of life .
But boiling people alive in pig oil as proposed by this patriot is OK with you......
Middle ages here we come. Why not bring back the crucifix, that strike fear into them
That you consider them twisted bastards is more or less what they want. They want to be feared.
These "Bastards" do not cause one to fear them, but more to hate them for crimes against humanity.
your previously stated strategy is to kill them all
i want to know how you would accomplish that objective
share with us your tactics and techniques to identify ISIS members from the balance of those who populate the middle east ... or is your plan to slaughter the innocent with the guilty
so, you probably now better understand why i am seeking to learn of your proposed tactics because just saying "kill them all" is too easy to say while being difficult/impossible to accomplish
The video has been on constantly here in Turkey and is provokign some interesting reactions. I have to say I have seen these kind of videos before but this one is one of the worst, awful way to go.
There is a debate going on in another thread about why Christianity spread. Philosophical section. The reason? Martyrdom. Are you willing to die for something bigger? Because they are. That concept is ingrained in humanity. You see the idea from Japan to the native Americans to Europeans and the Arabs. It isn't unique. Why? What more can you give than your life?
So let me ask you. If you are being told you will get 72 pristine and beautiful virgins, and enteral glory, salvation, redemption, and your friends and family were "murdered" by this great foreign enemy...doesn't sound so bad to start killing them does it? The more innocents we catch in the crossfire, which is what direct action will do, the more people will hate US and not THEM.
My idea is to take those who are not players in the game, or may who might chose the wrong team, and give them a little push. Why? That helps us. Not them. We saw Iraq and Afghanistan. Direct action isn't that effective. Isis came right after al Qaeda. Who comes after Isis? This concept that you are promoting is just eternal war. You want to "beat Islam?" You have to change it.
These "Bastards" do not cause one to fear them, but more to hate them for crimes against humanity.
Mornin Higgins. :2wave: It would be nice if the Turks shut down that Snugglers Route. Be even better if the Smugglers and Organized crime members took it upon themselves, To just gangster anything ISIS has and kill them on the spot.