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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The world learned in December that a U.S. drone strike in Yemen killed numerous wedding-goers as they made their way to a young couple's celebration.

    Another local's words remind us that the dead and the people who lost family members aren't the only victims, and that the horror wrought by this drone strike goes on: "We live in fear day and night," he said. "Our children and women cannot sleep.” His words echo the findings of a report on drones by the law clinics at NYU and Stanford, which discovered communities living in terror of U.S. strikes.

    The Wedding That a U.S. Drone Strike Turned Into a Funeral - The Atlantic
    Oh yes. The famous high standards and objectivity of Yemeni media from the south tribal zone. If there is anyone we can trust, it's people allied with al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula


    I saw a great IO study one time that compared the effectiveness of Saddam's dependence on an aging IADS network versus the Talibans dependence on manipulating the western media to avoid western airstrikes. Needless to say, the SA-5's didn't come out well.
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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i keep waiting for you to share with us your recipe for discriminating against isis personnel versus the remainder of the population in the region they inhabit together
    and you come back with stupid:

    so, if you actually have an approach to take out the bad guys while sparing the innocent, share it with us
    We should do it in the usual way. Are you that unaware of how things are done?

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Bucky, you are really not worth the effort. But, another wild assed claim by you is you claiming Obama is an anti-semite and will to let his friends in Iran exterminate the Jews.
    Ahhh I see. Get caught in your lie, refuse to cite this magical quote of me condemning drone strikes by Obama, then totally deflect.

    I rest my case :-)

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh yes. The famous high standards and objectivity of Yemeni media from the south tribal zone. If there is anyone we can trust, it's people allied with al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula


    I saw a great IO study one time that compared the effectiveness of Saddam's dependence on an aging IADS network versus the Talibans dependence on manipulating the western media to avoid western airstrikes. Needless to say, the SA-5's didn't come out well.
    I'll assume that's a denial that US PD strikes are killing disproportionate numbers of civilians. They're dead, just the same.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Ahhh I see. Get caught in your lie, refuse to cite this magical quote of me condemning drone strikes by Obama, then totally deflect.

    I rest my case :-)
    Rest is what you need.
    same as stating, my own words, not your exact phrasing, Obama was willing to stand by as Iran exterminated the Jews. Recall that Buck?
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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Jordan was in the fight already, it's precisely why this pilot was captured and subsequently killed.
    Yes... that's why I stated "accelerates". Really I'm wondering if the Arab League will join in as well.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you slandering your country by claiming that the left is sabotaging America?
    I agree with Mr. McCarthy's thesis. And neither he nor I is slandering this county by pointing out a fact: many leftists share the Islamists' loathing of the United States. They show this loathing by constantly running this country down and carrying water for the Islamists.

    If it's known that people who are bona fide innocent civilians are being killed in these drone attacks--and I don't how anyone gets into South Waziristan or an Al Qaeda village in the outback of Yemen to verify that--that is the price of sheltering war criminals in your midst. You cited the laws of war, but what you failed to mentioned is that the responsibility for civilian deaths in that situation falls not on the attacker, but on the war criminals who knowingly put them at risk by hiding in their midst.

    It would make no sense for the laws of war to prohibit--and they do not--a lawful combatant from firing on enemy combatants, just because they were violating the laws of war by sheltering in a school, church, hospital, or similar, or are fighting from among civilians or otherwise using human shields. Anyone who favors giving unlawful enemy combatants carte blanche to do those things is, ironically, encouraging the very war crimes the laws of war as codified in the Geneva Conventions were meant to discourage. To allow combatants to engage in war crimes and still be immune from attack under the laws of war would remove all incentive to abide by those laws. Jihadists are completely outside the protections of the laws of war, and all civilian deaths that occur as an incident of any reasonable force used to attack them are on their heads.

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Indeed. All of those poor, poor, 18-24 year old children, innocently playing with their RPGs...
    They're undoubtedly playing with Fischer Price's " My First RPG ".

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I agree with Mr. McCarthy's thesis. And neither he nor I is slandering this county by pointing out a fact: many leftists share the Islamists' loathing of the United States. They show this loathing by constantly running this country down and carrying water for the Islamists.

    If it's known that people who are bona fide innocent civilians are being killed in these drone attacks--and I don't how anyone gets into South Waziristan or an Al Qaeda village in the outback of Yemen to verify that--that is the price of sheltering war criminals in your midst. You cited the laws of war, but what you failed to mentioned is that the responsibility for civilian deaths in that situation falls not on the attacker, but on the war criminals who knowingly put them at risk by hiding in their midst.

    It would make no sense for the laws of war to prohibit--and they do not--a lawful combatant from firing on enemy combatants, just because they were violating the laws of war by sheltering in a school, church, hospital, or similar, or are fighting from among civilians or otherwise using human shields. Anyone who favors giving unlawful enemy combatants carte blanche to do those things is, ironically, encouraging the very war crimes the laws of war as codified in the Geneva Conventions were meant to discourage. To allow combatants to engage in war crimes and still be immune from attack under the laws of war would remove all incentive to abide by those laws. Jihadists are completely outside the protections of the laws of war, and all civilian deaths that occur as an incident of any reasonable force used to attack them are on their heads.
    Global authorities that the US government conveniently refuses to recognise have correctly condemned civilian casualties by the US military and clandestine agencies. You can ignore it as it pleases you, but that doesn't change the fact.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yes... that's why I stated "accelerates". Really I'm wondering if the Arab League will join in as well.
    I'm thinking that's possible.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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