There can be no question in our minds that the Islamists have declared war on us and all others who might oppose them. Whether we choose to call it "war" or "terrorism" or "criminal acts" is immaterial. We ARE at war and the ONLY way to fight a war is to crush your enemy until their will to fight is gone. We can not win if we define "victory" as some set of half measures. If we fight only to stick a fork in the eye of our enemy and then hope that they "see the light" after we leave the battlefield we will never achieve victory. After we crush the enemy we need to maintain control of the power vacuum that military victory creates until ideological victory becomes self sustaining.
Last edited by Lutherf; 02-04-15 at 03:03 PM.
Where did I say I was against drone strikes in general as you're falsly accussing me of? We will wait for you to quote it.
I suspect the leaders of ISIS are the remnants of Saddam's Iraq Republican Guard that were disbanded after the Iraq invasion. Prior to the invasion I remember seeing a video showing a group of them tearing a dog apart with their teeth and bare hands and screaming into the camera that is what they'd do to US if they invaded. Now look at them....beheading and burning people alive. Yes, they are the epitomy of evil. It's the kind of evil intended to keep a local population compliant and provide a form of justice without having to invest in costly courts and prisons. IE: steal once, get a hand cut off....steal twice, get second hand cut off....steal three times, get head cut off. No prisons necessary, primitive but effective...and evil.
Last edited by Moot; 02-04-15 at 03:50 PM.
Imagine Roosevelt saying "This is a day that will live in infamy! But they aren't all bad."
The older I get the more first hand irony I suffer. I am a liberal and find myself constantly referencing Republicans, but one thing GWB brought to the table was unity. When Afghanistan was invaded something like 85% of the country approved.
Now, Americans must weed through the jungle of jargon to figure out what to call it and just who you are fighting. There is no base of unity, no single rallying point. Even discussing appropriate response now, becomes an argument about who ****ed up, Bush for going in or Obama for leaving.
If the prevailing climate were that of 1941, America might still be arguing whether it was fair to have provoked the Japanese by having a naval base on Oahu in the first place. It seems Obama encourages that; what I used to term "smoke and mirrors politics"
and there again, 30 plus years ago based in Parliament I watched a former goof ball actor, "right wing fascist' unify a country against its will. Maybe there is hope
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